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Save for your benefits….

Good job we’re not already paying into some kind of insurance fund, run nationally, to contribute towards our benefits.

Aye, but that’s not run privately by his hedge fund mates.

Mmmm, maybe the poorer you are the more you should have to save as you’re more likely to claim benefits, say, roughly, 100% of you income. You could invest it in, say, duck house maintenance companies or restaurateurs in the Westminster district?

Good job we’re not already paying into some kind of insurance fund, run nationally, to contribute towards our benefits.

That sounds suspiciously like some form of commie socialist nonsense. We’ll soon put a stop to that and let good old capitalism sort out the problem…

I’m surprised he hasn’t already suggested than the poor & disabled should pay their own benefits out of their own benefit fund, which they would build up during their ‘hard working’ years before falling on poor morals.

What an utter shitehawk that man is.

Makes the question “You are in a room with IDS and Gideon, you have a gun with only one bullet, what do you do?” easier to answer though

Haven’t thought this all the way through yet, but at first glance, it seems to me that IDS has been influenced by the social credit idea, such as we saw in Canada until the 1960s.

Its originator was British, so IDS could well have been hitting the history books.

richmtb – you put them back to back, shove the gun in one of their mouths and get a two for one deal.

Force them to fight to the death and shoot the winner, durr

EDIT: mine’s more entertaining that the above

“You are in a room with IDS and Gideon, you have a gun with only one bullet, what do you do?” easier to answer though

Shoot one then beat the other to death with the gun?

And to think it was fear of the SNP that drove idiots to vote for the tories. This time the UK really is getting what it deserves.

I went for ruthless efficiency rather than entertainment.

Marcus Brigstock made a short but impassioned plea on some TV show last week that until people get off their arses and vote, we will continue to get this kind of crap.

People did vote, it’s just that they missed the point of Vote SNP get Tory.

This astonishing little piece of double-think appeared in the telegraph yesterday:

But Mr Duncan Smith is pondering even more radical plans, though he emphasises they are not yet official policy.
He says the future for young people starting work today must be to save into flexible accounts from which they can draw down when they need to rather than wait until retirement as with pensions.
”We need to support the kind of products that allow people through their lives to dip in and out when they need the money for sickness or care or unemployment,” he says.
Similar systems exist in many countries, especially in the Far East where welfare states never took root, such as Fortune Accounts in Singapore.
Mr Duncan Smith says people here still think they are saving for their future through the National insurance Fund whereas all the money goes on current benefits, mostly pensions and still has to be topped up.

People did vote, it’s just that they missed the point of Vote SNP get Tory.

Rubbish.

Even If Labour had won all 59 seats in Scotland we would have still had a Tory government. We got a Tory government because England voted for it.

richmtb – Member

Makes the question “You are in a room with IDS and Gideon, you have a gun with only one bullet, what do you do?”

Confronted with that nightmare scenario I’d probably shoot myself.

What an utter socket he is, Dear Labour, please elect a decent leader and give us a chance to free ourselves of these self-serving **** is 4 years and 11 months.

Dear Labour, please elect a decent leader and give us a chance to free ourselves of these self-serving **** is 4 years and 11 months.

Labour appears to overflowing with born leaders, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.

Harriet appears to be a bit of an IDS fangirl, though, and it’s only a matter of months before the formal merger anyhow.

He says the future for young people starting work today must be to save into flexible accounts from which they can draw down when they need to rather than wait until retirement as with pensions.

Yes, because as we all know the number one problem young people have today is too much spare money…..

Marcus Brigstock made a short but impassioned plea on some TV show last week that until people get off their arses and vote, we will continue to get this kind of crap.

Who should they vote for?

We got a Tory government because England voted for it.

and let’s be honest, most of England aren’t complaining – just a few malingering northerners 🙄

Sadly i can’t see anyone in the Labour ranks who I’d vote for as leader. Whoever is elected will have their work cut out shaping them into a viable alternative government.

I expect the silence from the Labour front bench will be as deafening as ever. What is the point of the labour party?

Well at least we now know what IDS expects young people to do with that mountain of spare cash they’ve all got left of their enormous wages, in their cushy unpaid internships, after they’ve payed their exhorbitent rent to buy-to-let landlords.

Luckily Gideon exempted them from any increase in the minimum wage. Presumanbly to stop them spending it all on gold-plated unicorns

Luckily Gideon exempted them from any increase in the minimum wage

It’s for their own good, being poor will keep them motivated and instil a moral backbone so they can go on to become good little Tories in the future.

IDS was born poor and that gave him the motivation he needed to fabricate his service record and marry into money.

Good answers

The correct answer is you beat them both to death with the gun and go out and find CMD

Good job we’re not already paying into some kind of insurance fund, run nationally, to contribute towards our benefits.

Now, if I’d had my own NI contributions and then did as he says I’d be well up.

I’ve always been a good earner, and little sickness (about 1 day per year if you average it out) and little need of benefits, but for all those who haven’t been as lucky/fortunate/worked-hard etc, you’d need a ‘fund’ which we’d all pay into, and benefit when needed. Hmm, wonder what we could call it…

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Insurance_Act_1911

The really do seem to hat the poor and sick dont they

The really do seem to hate the poor and sick don’t they

It’s how they define themselves, if you have more money than someone you are superior in every way. Thus they are motivated to maintain an underclass, which makes them feel very smug indeed. I am amazed they haven’t suggested re-introducing slavery yet, it is a natural extension of their current policies.

The really do seem to hat the poor and sick dont they

If you frame Sickness and Poverty (as the Tory and their friends in the press do)as a “moral failure”, then it’s easier to punish it.

We’re all in this together.