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  • Homemade headset press
  • dougiedogg
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    Hi Folks

    Was just wondering has anyone made their own press similar to the one in this video?

    [video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGfvO-ztoT4[/video]

    My main question is where to get the parts for it, without having to buy 10s/50s/100s 😀

    I’m in N.I but just some general pointers would be good

    nickjb
    Free Member

    Local, old fashioned hardware store. Should have draws of nuts and washers for a few pence each. They’ll have the studding too. Does the job nicely enough.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Ok I’ll have to wait till the weekend then :|, old fashioned hardware stores have old fashioned opening times 😀

    kilo
    Full Member

    I bought the bits at homebase iirc, I found packs of ten were ok as you needed a few washers either end so they didn’t flex when you applied pressure

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    How little threaded rod can you buy?

    deadkenny
    Free Member

    Done it before using threaded rod, big washers and wing nuts. Carefully tap in a bit before pressing. It’s not brilliant though so got a Cyclus Headset Press. At the time it was £30. Seems to have gone up in price a bit now though.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Yea they are very expensive for a seemingly simple piece of kit

    burgatedicky
    Full Member

    Yep, I’ve made one too.
    Went to B&Q for the bits here, threaded rod was the most annoying bit IIRC as I had to buy far more than I was ever going to need! Just hacksawed it to the right length and put the rest in the back of the shed.
    Worked quite well with just the washers, but I did modify it a bit to use some bits of wood (ply) rather than metal washers on my new shiny hope headset as I was slightly paranoid about marking it.
    That said I didn’t mark any of the headsets before the hope with just the washers!
    Crack on, you’ll save a fortune!

    jonba
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    Yes, then i bought a cheap proper one. But when everything started going to tapered the cups were too bikg so I had to bodge a bit again. I found a flat piece of wood with a big hole drilled through was good for pressing in the bearings when I couldn’t find washers.

    gavtheoldskater
    Free Member

    years ago i faffed around with all sorts of internet wisdom diy headset presses, but when i bought a proper one, not an expensive one either, i kicked myself i hadnt done so before.

    breatheeasy
    Free Member

    Ebay for a bit of threaded rod? Bound to find someone who sell it in a 30/50cm length.

    Though to echo Gav above, my old bodged rod/washers/randon cup things I found in the old mans tool box was okay but a proper tool was so much better. Depends how many headsets you want to change.

    sockpuppet
    Full Member

    Or for washers go to sxrewfix and buy the big box of a thousand and all shapes and sizes for a tenner, and never run out of washers or use the wrong size again!

    dhrider
    Free Member

    I needed a headset press about a month ago, couldn’t find anywhere selling washers big enough to do 56mm cups so I ended up buying a Park Tool press.

    http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/mobile/park-tool-headset-bmx-bb-bearing-cup-press-hhp3/rp-prod12326

    Olly
    Free Member

    Tried it, pain in the arse and nearly junked a frame. If your going to do it, go big gauge 1″. Don’t fanny about with m8 kinda stuff.

    Block of wood. A hammer, and not being ham fisted does the job fine. Little taps with a big hammer.

    rmacattack
    Free Member

    go down to any big commercial/ industrial jobs in your area. or if you know a plumber/ sparkie / hvac mate. there will be heaps of rod, washers and nuts lying about.

    i made one a few years ago for a dreaded press fit bb. but to be honest it can be tricky to get it square and to flush even. i wouldn’t faff about if i had to do it again to be honest.

    tuskaloosa
    Free Member

    Similar to the above experiences, used mainly for 1 1/8 not the greatest if you ask me. When tried on the 1.5 I almost made a complete mess of it and had to resort to a piece of wood and a lump hammer. Invest in in a proper tool or just get the local LBS to do it save yourself some grief.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Ok well I’ll try B&Q tomorrow, should I go for M10 then?

    Unfortunately no LBS in my town, nearest one about 15 miles.

    It’s only one headset (cheapo halfrauds bike) bought a nice FSA one to replace the rubbish they put in, only really bothering because I like to muck around with stuff.

    Another question; if I buy an actual press, does it do all sizes of headsets/cups?

    Simon_Semtex
    Free Member

    http://www.swiftscrewproducts.co.uk

    You near Belfast?

    Try these guys.

    Northwind
    Full Member

    I made one, and a “proper” one, but I use a rubber mallet and a bit of wood most of the time. Sometimes the other ones twist the headset and screw up the logo alignment (or the angleset alignment, if you’re doing that). Hammering isn’t foolproof but that’s OK- if you’re enough of a fool you can destroy anything after all

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    I’m not unfortunately Simon_Semtex, cheers though

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    I’m a disaster, I’ll just end up hammering the bearing cages into ovals

    Simon_Semtex
    Free Member

    Dougie.. where are you in Norn Iron?

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Banbridge

    sam_underhill
    Full Member

    For me, it’s all about keeping it centred. Especially when the cups are tight.
    So a cyclus style stepped press makes life much much much easier.
    And then you need a different one because your tool isn’t wide enough for tapered headtubes.

    Simon_Semtex
    Free Member

    Dougie….. Best place for you is Dunn and Co in Downpatrick. They will have all that stuff on the shelf. Bit of a trek though… 28miles.

    Or give these guys a call: http://www.roscoeng.co.uk/
    They’re in Richhill. (14 miles) They won’t have anything on the shelf but will know someone who has.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Thanks for all the replies folks.

    PS. there should be a like button

    inverjoe
    Free Member

    Its much easier to pull the cups in straight if you lock the bottom washer in place with a nut either side, then tighten using a 3rd nut on top of the top washer. I used M16 screwed rod from a local tool shop.

    Bustaspoke
    Free Member

    OP,For the sake of convenience I bought one from Ebay a few years ago,you can still get them on there for less than a tenner,have a look.
    Mine’s done at least 3 headsets & I’ve used it for fitting frame bearings,great value for money.

    chrisdw
    Free Member

    I just use anti seize paste a rubber mallet. Don’t even bother with the wood.
    I’ve once used a massive bench vice with wooden plates as jaws. The mallet was less of a faff though.

    oldtalent
    Free Member

    Yes didnt work, still pulled them in on the skew. I was so careful too. I really don’t understand why it didn’t work as expected.
    Beat them in with a rubber hammer since.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    So it seems rubber mallet is coming out on top, I have one too. They are the integrated type bearings, so no worries about logos or anything.

    I am great at destroying things though. 😥

    Bustaspoke- I see the one you are talking about, looks good I like the bearings.

    snownrock
    Full Member

    I did exactly this using pilfered threaded bar and nuts from on of our sites, works a treat. Press fit BB’s also

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Well I got the parts, cost me all of 4 quid and the bearings have been pressed. It was a faff, requiring the odd hammer tap, but it worked. 😀

    skink2020
    Full Member

    Doesn’t anyone just use a vice? Couple of bits of pine to cushion.
    Just me?

    ads678
    Full Member

    Sometimes when it’s just bearings in the frame you can slot then on with your fingers.

    I generally just use a rubber mallet. But do have a home made press I made for a press fit bb. I’m sure a proper one works nicer but I just wanted to make one.

    neilpass
    Free Member

    I’ve used a black and decker workmate in the past but have made a headset/BB press like the OP pictured but found some metal plates at work that should be a lot stronger than washers

    muddylegs
    Free Member

    I couple of years ago I couldn’t find my press so in frustration used similar to theses http://www.screwfix.com/p/maypole-ladder-clamps-2-pack/8808r off of the van using big penny washers. Worked a treat. Still haven’t found that bloody press!

    kayak23
    Full Member

    oldtalent – Member
    Yes didnt work, still pulled them in on the skew

    IME you can’t pull a headset in, in one hit generally. You start it, then slacken the tool and move it inline with any high spots, pull them in a little before re-centreing and pulling the whole shebang in plumb.

    Trouble with threaded bar generally is the finer thread pitch means it takes ages to screw on and off. Proper tools have a steeper thread so it’s nice and quick.

    trail_rat
    Free Member

    IME you can’t pull a headset in, in one hit generally. You start it, then slacken the tool and move it inline with any high spots, pull them in a little before re-centreing and pulling the whole shebang in plumb.

    This is why stepped inserts win.

    they pull it in central.

    Also good headset presses have a fine thread for pulling them in controlled on one end – and they have a course thread on the other for setting the tool up quickly.

    for the 30 quid they cost for a cyclus one i wouldnt be **** about trying to make one out of bar/nuts and washers……. if i had my lathe i might have turned one as a project but not thinking i was saving money.

    dougiedogg
    Free Member

    Yea the thread pitch is a PITA, I think my press would work great if I got some of the washers tack welded to the nuts.

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