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  • HELP!!!! Stuck hope Pistons
  • ir_bandito
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    I’m trying to service my old pre-mono Hope M4s before Dyfi. Got the front calliper off and in 2 halves. Got the pistons out of one side using the hose-and-a-bike-pump and thumb-over-the-hole method, but they simply WILL NOT budge on the other side (which explains why they’ve not been working too well recently).

    Any suggestions how I can free up the stuck pistons? ANy other way to get them out other than blowing them?

    ir_bandito
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    Oh yes, don’t mind trashing the seals as I’ve got the replacement set to go in…

    TandemJeremy
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    It might be a bit late now but I pump them out with the hydraulics all intact. Ie pads out pump the lever till one moves halfway out – hold that in and contimue pumping until the other is halfway out – them split the caliper and pull them the rest of the way

    gusamc
    Free Member

    * I don’t know M4s, but consider the following idea

    Firstly check that the piston is square to the caliper – this may be the issue

    Could you push it further in – in an attempt to break whatever the ‘seal’ is that is holding it in place – like a gclamp applying gradual pressure, once it moves in (and you could apply lubricant to seals whilst moving them) – it should hopefully move out.

    Another idea – as water doesn’t compress as much as air could you try pumping in water ?????

    An old motorbike trick is to put things in a freezer they shrink – so theoretically this should loose the piston

    stonemonkey
    Free Member

    bit of dot fluid on the pistons is a good lube

    Pete
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    How much air pressure are you using, it took 120psi (from a track pump) to blow out some pistons from a set of Hayes the other day, I had to seal of the small hole with a bit of rubber and a clamp to generate enough force to blow the pistons out. Wrap some rag around the caliper to stop the piston coming out like a bullet..

    uplink
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    What I did when faced with a similar problem on an old Mini – when even a compressor wouldn’t pop the piston out ….

    Was …

    Cut a small screw to just fit inside the piston
    I then put a nut on it enabling it to be tightened against the inside walls
    I could then use pliers to twist the piston to free it
    It was a bit fiddly getting it in & tightened but worked well

    ir_bandito
    Free Member

    Thanks.
    Filled it all up and used the fluid to pump the pistons part way out, then managed to get enough air-pressure in it to blow it out.
    Seems the lip of one of the cylinders was slightly scored so stopping the piston.

    Now I just need to figure out why the hose-connector isn’t sealing to the caliper properly. Seems the brass washer just isn’t doing it’s job.
    Any suggestions?

    uplink
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    Try annealing the copper washer

    Heat it up until it’s cherry red & then quench it in water

    ir_bandito
    Free Member

    That worked!!

    New seals, new hose and new fluid and the brake feels amazing! Now the rear….

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