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  • Headset question. A simple Yes or No… :-)
  • DezB
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    Is a Drop-in headset the same thing as an Integrated Headset?

    amedias
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    maybe

    simondbarnes
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    It depends

    DezB
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    Dammit.

    YoKaiser
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    Eranu.

    DezB
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    This place used to be helpful. 😥

    mikewsmith
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    What the bike, give us the info and we can google it for you 😉

    wwaswas
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    This place used to be helpful.

    Yes

    PJM1974
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    Specialized?

    andreasrhoen
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    My guess:

    No

    “Drop in” is only part of an headset? Can be integrated, can be not integrated…?

    Guessing only.
    Making noise
    😯

    DezB
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    Well, I know which headset I need – this’un:

    Now, a couple of brands that I’ve found (Ritchey, Syncros) call em drop-in and others call em integrated, so, as the Ritchey and Syncros ones are a bit cheaper and easier to get hold of.. well, y’knaa.. ^^ That question

    mikewsmith
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    That is a specific code if that is what you need then that is what you will get regardless of what it is called, it’s a good bit of standardisation (or at least giving them all a name)

    MaryHinge
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    Yes. I think!

    I think of them as “drop in” as you have noting to press into the frame like A Headset cups. You just drop em in and they mate to the angle in the head tube.

    Was that helpful?

    scaredypants
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    answer will be printed on the crown race

    … but you can only see that once it arrives 😀

    DezB
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    Not sure what you mean there Mike. See, the Ritchey, has that sizing, but doesn’t use that exact code (or maybe it does and yet is called drop-in)
    Here – http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/ritchey-wcs-headset-lowers-drop-in/rp-prod130225

    Headset shopping experience is limited after having a Hope headset for 10 years not needing touching, then getting a frame with a tapered integrated Cane Creek and it going crap after a few months!

    mikewsmith
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    Sorry I thought you meant they both had that exact code, that is the bit that is the standard, all IS 42/28.6 top cups should fit the same.

    DezB
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    That’s Cane Creek’s headset finder result for my frame.

    nedrapier
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    Mu.

    nickc
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    integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.

    semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.

    traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup.

    work out which your bike has. But mike is correct, all headset labelled with that code will fit.

    fooman
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    It can depend on headset manufacturer but I found on Brand X tapered headsets the bottom bearings identical but the top bearing had an ever so slightly smaller outer diameter with the integrated set. The integrated coming with matching cups obvs.

    DezB
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    integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.
    semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.
    traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup

    I know all those, ta. Question in first post still not really answered.

    mikewsmith
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    Not the same thing but behave in a similar way, though the real answer is order one with that exact code on it.

    nickc
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    Question in first post still not really answered.

    2nd post answers it perfectly 😆

    andreasrhoen
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    Is a Drop-in headset the same thing as an Integrated Headset?

    still – my guess:

    Simple No

    8)

    DezB
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    2nd post answers it perfectly

    Indeed. I’m glad it was simple 😀

    otsdr
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    Yes, drop-in and integrated are used interchangeably.

    Assuming Cane Creek correctly identified the headset for your mistery frame, you should be able to use any IS42/28.6 IS52/40 pair. For the bottom part I’m pretty sure you could get away with the bearing and crown race from any tapered headset; as mentioned above, the top part may have a slightly differently sized bearing, so it would be preferrable to get the correct “IS” part.

    integrated = the frame has a cup cut into the headtube.
    semi-integrated = the headtube has a permanent cup fitted already that cannot be removed.
    traditional press fit = you have to press in a cup

    That does make sense, however most of the time “semi-integrated” refers to zero stack (ZS) headsets, which are pressed in (integrated – IS, semi-integrated – ZS, external/traditional – EC).

    DezB
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    Ah yes!

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