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  • Grammar pedants to the forum please.
  • gearfreak
    Free Member

    What is wrong with the following sentence, and why?

    “Was it Kelly that spoke to you?”

    This was asked in an AAT course I’m taking and the tutor was unable to explain why it’s incorrect, I don’t know either?

    IHN
    Full Member

    It should be ‘who’, not ‘that’.

    bearnecessities
    Full Member

    It wasn’t Kelly.

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    Grammar pedants to the forum, please.

    bob_summers
    Full Member

    Edited. I’m talking out my arse. It’s not wrong.

    Jakester
    Free Member

    Grammar pedants to the forum please.

    Isn’t that redundant?

    Anyway, surely the correct answer is “was it Kelly to whom you spoke?” 😉

    IHN
    Full Member

    Not if Kelly did all the speaking

    bob_summers
    Full Member

    You’ve changed the meaning Jakester.

    johndoh
    Free Member

    It should be ‘who’, not ‘that’.

    This (IMO).

    globalti
    Free Member

    You wouldn’t say: “It was kelly that spoke…” you’d say: “It was Kelly who spoke….” so it should be: “Was it Kelly who spoke…..?”

    bob_summers
    Full Member

    Why, Johndoh? British Council say both are fine.

    bob_summers
    Full Member

    Michael Swan says we use that instead of who in an informal style.

    toby1
    Full Member

    Was it Kelly who spoke with you?

    Would make it more proper.

    Grammar crime of the day today in a company presentation “KPInization”

    If people could be hung for these crimes, I tells ya …

    bob_summers
    Full Member

    If people could be hung for these crimes

    Hanged 🙂

    nickc
    Full Member

    Bloody hell. I thought I stopped worrying about relative clauses when I dropped Latin with Mr Street…

    Either “That” or “Who” is OK when talking about people.

    mogrim
    Full Member

    You wouldn’t say: “It was kelly that spoke…” you’d say: “It was Kelly who spoke….” so it should be: “Was it Kelly who spoke…..?”

    I’d say either. A quick Google suggests there’s no hard-and-fast rule, just preference.

    IHN
    Full Member

    Was it Kelly who spoke with you?

    Would make it more proper.

    Again, only if both parties were speaking. If only Kelly was speaking, that doesn’t work.

    jimdubleyou
    Full Member

    If people could be hung for these crimes

    Hanged 🙂 [/quote]

    Perhaps he wanted to nail them to the wall?

    imnotverygood
    Full Member

    ‘Spoke with you’ & ‘spoke to you’ have slightly different connotations

    edlong
    Free Member

    CaptainFlashheart – Member
    Grammar pedants to the forum, please.

    You missed the implication of “please.”

    Grammar pedants to the forum, please?

    CaptainFlashheart
    Free Member

    I think not. In this instance, I believe that the “please” is an abbreviated form of “if it may please you” or similar.

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