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  • Grammar pedants – capitalisation
  • molgrips
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    The internet suggests that adjectives derived from proper nouns need to be capitalised, except in some cases where the adjective has become more common than the original noun e.g. herculean or quixotic.

    MS Word wants me to capitalise the word ‘boolean’. Do you agree?

    Rubber_Buccaneer
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    1

    wwaswas
    Full Member

    yes.

    fasthaggis
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    false

    hammyuk
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    Whaaa???

    perchypanther
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    True……OR false

    TheBrick
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    0xFFFF

    SaxonRider
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    All examples I know of the word capitalise it. So I would go with Word on this one.

    GrahamS
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    MS Word wants me to capitalise the word ‘boolean’. Do you agree?

    I would say, “depends”.

    I’d (probably) capitalise it in the phrase “Boolean Logic” as that’s a name.

    But I wouldn’t capitalise it if I was just saying something like “x is a boolean value”, for the same reason I wouldn’t capitalise integer in “x is an integer value”

    Onzadog
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    I would capatalise it. Similar to Volts in my mind. People at work write kv but I say it should be kV.

    GrahamS
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    People at work write kv but I say it should be kV.

    You’d be right, the SI symbol is capitalised.

    However in long form I would write “volts” not “Volts” (likewise joules, coulomb, amp, watt)

    chakaping
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    If MS Word told you to jump off a cliff…

    euain
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    Depends if you want a primitive or an object…

    OK – leaving the forum and back to Netbeans for me.

    perchypanther
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    slowoldman
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    What’s the worst that could happen? Some dullard on stw whinges at you for a minor linguistic infringement.

    hammyuk
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    DrJ
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    Speaking of Microsoft, you know when a program crashes and you get a box saying “Windows is looking for a solution to the problem” – has it EVER found one?

    Cougar
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    I’ve had it happen, but it’s rare.

    footflaps
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    It depends on your value of lambda…

    GrahamS
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    A feeble human attempt at cosmological mass-distribution formula?
    You meatbags are so cute sometimes.

    Hail Vectron.

    molgrips
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    Whilst we are on the subject:

    “.. there is a large number of objects ..”

    Word wants me to change that to ‘are’, but I think it’s wrong. The number is singular, and it is large.

    GrahamS
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    Are.

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/words/number-of-people-is-or-are

    Would you say “a large number of objects is”?

    molgrips
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    That example is different anyway. That’s A number of people, which means more than one person ie plural.

    I’m talking about ‘THE number of objects’, ie the number itself. As in ‘the number of objects is large’.

    However I can imagine that Word doesn’t realise this.

    perchypanther
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    Word wants me to change that to ‘are’, but I think it’s wrong.

    You is wrong 😉 It’s are.

    …’s got more soul.

    Also, in your example, objects aren’t the object, they’re the subject.

    GrahamS
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    And it’s more piratey.

    JoeG
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    molgrips Molgrips

    molgrips
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    The number of objects in the list are large.

    I R baboon.

    Wtf?

    thisisnotaspoon
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    Is.

    You wouldn’t say “there are a large amount of data”, but then equally you would say “there are a large number of bricks in a house”. So I suspect the answer is a but more nuanced than just whether the subject is plural or not, because like ‘objects’, I’d say that data isn’t plural, but is a collective noun (for anecdote :-p )?

    There is a large collection
    There are large collections
    Still different because collection and collections, but it’s still using is to refer to a group of things.

    perchypanther
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    there is a large number of objects

    ‘the number of objects is large’

    The number of objects in the list are large.

    You are aware that these are three different sentences?
    The grammatical subject of each sentence being subtly different in each case?

    Edit: The verb structure of the sentence is determined by the subject. In the three examplea above the subjects would be : the objects, the number and the list respectively.

    Is it coz’ you is Welsh, isn’t it? 😀

    molgrips
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    equally you would say “there are a large number of bricks in a house”

    That I can see.

    That does reflect my actual sentence.

    What about ‘there is a lot of objects’?

    A lot is singular.

    perchypanther
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    What about ‘there is a lot of objects’?

    A lot is singular.

    The “lot” is not the subject of the sentence.
    The “objects” are. Which is plural. Therefore, there are a lot of objects.

    Just trust Bill Gates. He didn’t get to be the richest man in the world by being a dumbass.

    molgrips
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    I disagree. ‘lot’ is the subject in this case.

    perchypanther
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    I disagree. ‘lot’ is the subject in this case.

    …except, in this case, “lot” is actually an adjective describing the quantity of objects.

    You are actually chewkw and I claim my five pounds. 🙂

    hammyuk
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    perchypanther – Member

    You are actually chewkw and I claim my five pounds.

    “LIKE”

    captainsasquatch
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    Scrub that, I’m too tired/ill to go into it.

    perchypanther
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    List isn’t the subject.

    Aren’t it?

    I am actually chewkw and I’d like to give my five pounds back. 😳

    molgrips
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    It’s all bolloxks, I are hate you all

    hels
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    George Boole was a person so “Boolean” gets proper noun status, so “Boolean” is correct.

    eddiebaby
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    Is Ms Word fit? If so do what she says to get in her pants.

    perchypanther
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    It’s all bolloxks, I are hate you all

    Tsk, tsk. Should be……

    It’re all bolloxks, I is hate you all.

    Have you learned nothing? 😉

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