Politicians can never win. That just isn’t fair. If you say one thing everyone slags you off, if you say the other everyone slags you off anyway. If you change your mind, you’re weak; if you don’t, you’re foolish and stubborn.

You must admit he was terminally indecisive in the early days of his premiership.

People don’t need a deep understanding of the issues involved to recognise that he made himself look weak and silly.

I like to think I form my own political opinions rather than borrowing them from Jeremy Clarkson, thank you very much.

Ah, that’s because if you own up to having make a mistake, the papers will tear into you

At least with most of them you can tell they know they’ve got it wrong, he’s capable of being utterly convincing that he knows he was right all along. It must of course just be an act – nice to know he’s good at something.

Would you like to nominate a decent competent upstanding moral sensetive and skillful PM that met with widespread acclaim?

Churchill? (though I’m not totally convinced by him with all of those criteria).

I like to think it’s a sign of impartiality that we have a go at all PMs. Fairly sure I’ll be making disparaging comments about Dave in 18 months time – though my suspicion is that whilst he’ll probably be a bit rubbish, he won’t be quite as bad as Gordon.

The thought of Cameron as PM is horrifying.

But that’s one for another thread perhaps. And I’m not going to start it.

Aside from a plethora of inadequacies, he has little or no understanding of people, with no natural affinity for normal folk. He’s severely lost when it comes to reading what other people think.

I’ll save the expletives for later. 😆

You must admit he was terminally indecisive in the early days of his premiership.

Yes, of course – I’m not sticking up for Brown. I’m merely attacking the way people think of politicians. And I never mentioned Clarkson, dunno what you are talking about chapaking sorry. Didn’t accuse you of anything did I? My “you”s were the generic kind.

Churchill?

He was panned at the time IIRC. He got voted out and was quite offended, given his war record. People really didn’t like his politics.

Leaders carry the can when the sh1t hits the fan.
Personally, I don’t like the idea that he wasn’t elected by us – a weakened mandate.

He’s just a man trying to serve his country. Incompetent, maybe; but not the Satan some seem to think. Because that would be just ridiculous.

She was just a woman trying to serve her country. Unpopular maybe, but not the Satan some seem to think. Because that would be ridiculous.

Hmmmm.

churchill lost a majority of 147 and the love of a grateful nation a year after the war!
because he and the torries opposed the formation of an NHS

browns just hated coz he is in charge of a 3 term government
no PM is ever popular then, everyone has finally realised that the brighter shinier future offered at the start of their term is the same old overcast quagmire of rich people exploiting others while poverty, disease and inequality is still heaped upon the poor

cameron does vaguely repulse me not sure why, hes just too clean and nice and smarmy, even if brown has a face like a sack of spuds and he sounds like a long slow fart i somehow trust him more than cameron
even crazy brows darling seems more competent than the spineless, wet, lickspitle osborne

tbh i can see little difference between the red or blue parties its the same mix of slimy power hungry career politicians who worked their way up from eton or harrow via oxbridge sucking off all the right housemasters, peers of the realm and captains of industry to get where they are now

I pretty much agree with this, nice to see Gordon laugh it off.

Kimbers has it.

Btw I don’t like Thatcher but she wasn’t evil. Even Hitler thought he was doing the right thing, remember. No-one goes into power wanting to f*ck things up and have everyone hate them.

As for the current tories – I like their green tinge, I’d consider voting them just for that, despite being a socialist at heart – but I really don’t like the way all they seem to do is slag off whatever Labour do, like something from the schoolyard. Be constructive, not destructive. It’s not a points scoring contents (well ok it is, but it shouldn’t be) – let’s hear what you want to change about govt policies and how you want to do it. We don’t care for the put downs and the rhetoric.