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  • Good ol' Blair the ex-PM who just keeps getting stuff….
  • teamhurtmore
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    Maybe Tony is lining up a job for sons and/or friends. STC have 33 people earning above £60k including 2 on £130-140k and 3 on £100-110k, just the job for Blair junior?

    ernie_lynch
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    but at least he’s posh enough to….

    I would consider Blair to be considerably more ‘posh’ than John Major.

    If you haven’t understood that then you haven’t understood the problem.

    Junkyard
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    Not to mention if Flashy climbed any higher he’d get altitude sickness

    I thought it was if he got any higher he could not see who he was pissing on 😉
    No offence meant Cpt just a joke

    Corrupt, vile little shit of a man.

    THIS
    I assume he gets the Noble peace prize soon then…are we just waiting for israel to be involved in a “proper” war to give it to him for his sterling efforts there?

    jambalaya
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    Personal insults aimed at Blair are fine, in fact they should be encouraged imo, everyone hates the lying cheating fraudster. Although bizarrely he was hugely popular as Prime Minister and easily won three elections


    @ernie
    you have contradicted yourself. If he was hated by everyone he wouldn’t have been PM for so long, or in fact at all. He is disliked by the anti-war / conflict groups as in their view a Labour PM should never go to war and by those who think he’s now made too much money. He oversaw the signing of the peace agreement with the IRA.

    We can and do go round in circles on this on here but any likely UK Prime Minister at that time would have done the same on Afghanistan and Iraq.

    oldnpastit
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    We can and do go round in circles on this on here but any likely UK Prime Minister at that time would have done the same on Afghanistan and Iraq.

    In a previous generation, Harold Wilson had the balls to refuse Lyndon B Johnson’s requests for us to enter the Vietnam war. So clearly it can be done.

    konabunny
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    So why hasn’t anyone challenged it ?

    How do you know it hasn’t been challenged and the boss pushed it through anyway?

    Not quite sure of the relevance.

    It’s relevant because some people here seem very quick to write off organisations that do do a lot to make the world a better place as being

    riddled with morons

    Pigface
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    Do any of Blairs offspring want a career in politics? Does he see himself as the patriarch of a political dynasty such as the Bush’s or Kennedy’s?

    Junkyard
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    in their view a Labour PM should never go to war

    Yes that was exactly why everyone opposed the war , excellent insight 🙄

    Do any of Blairs offspring want a career in politics?

    Not sure but the labour party is getting a bit dynastic as well
    At least three children of MPs there i can name of the top of my head and Jack Straws son is a candidate next time as well iirc.

    noltae
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    These awards are just total sham. – Just like Obama receiving a Nobel peace prize ..

    binners
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    If he was hated by everyone he wouldn’t have been PM for so long, or in fact at all.

    Didn’t you notice who he was standing against? Ian Duncan Smith for PM anyone? Michael Howard?

    I don’t hate Blair. Not like I hated Thatcher. At least you knew what you were getting there. I just view him with the utter contempt he so richly deserves. A man completely and utterly devoid of any shred of principle, who would do absolutely anything, for anyone , no matter how unsavoury, as long as they throw millions of pounds at him

    ernie_lynch
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    “If he was hated by everyone he wouldn’t have been PM for so long, or in fact at all”.

    Didn’t you notice who he was standing against? Ian Duncan Smith for PM anyone? Michael Howard?

    I’m not sure that many people feel the same loathing towards Ian Duncan Smith and Michael Howard as they do towards Blair.

    Had Blair been an electoral liability he would not have remained leader for so long. It’s not a case of he was hated but the opposition leaders were considered worse.

    Blair was popular with the electorate but now everyone hates him.

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    He oversaw the signing of the peace agreement with the IRA.

    The process of a negotiated peace agreement with the PIRA was started by John Major. Tony Blair did not have any choice politically other than to carry on with the NI peace talks.

    It took considerable courage for John Major to instigate talks with the PIRA, the political consequences if it all went pear-shaped were absolutely enormous, specially given both huge public hostility towards the PIRA and decades of British government anti-IRA propaganda.

    It took no courage on the part of Tony Blair to continue with the already well established NI peace talks when he became PM. In fact abandoning the peace talks would have been political suicide for Blair as by then they were providing a glimmer of hope in a stalemate situation, as it became obvious that not only could the PIRA not be defeated militarily but that the PIRA was actually prepared to genuinely talk about a lasting peace in NI.

    It’s John Major who deserves the credit for the NI peace process, not Tony Blair, although he rarely gets it.

    oldmanmtb
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    I was at a business event just before Tony won his first election and he had turned up to seek the support of the small business community (he did a lot of this to steal traditional Tory votes) the people in the room were initially anti Blair but within 15 minutes he had well and truly won them over, now I am probably a socialist at heart but firmly believe in balancing it with good capatilism (if such a thing exists) so Blair should have won me over very easily but I had an instant almost unreasonable dislike of the man (I thought he was unhinged) yet I could not at that point explain why? I think he is the most publicly accepted sociopath in recent times. Nothing he does or accepts will ever surprise me, he has amassed a personal wealth from some very questionable sources and no one seems to mind?

    Tom_W1987
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    but I had an instant almost unreasonable dislike of the man (I thought he was unhinged) yet I could not at that point explain why?

    You were vindicated by the fact that Blair turned out to be a full on Catholic loony who thought that God had sent him on a mission to invade Iraq and topple Saddam.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/5373525/Tony-Blair-believed-God-wanted-him-to-go-to-war-to-fight-evil-claims-his-mentor

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/4772142.stm

    Junkyard
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    It’s John Major who deserves the credit for the NI peace process, not Tony Blair, although he rarely gets it

    +1 he also took considerable political risk , including opposition from high ranking Tory cabinet ministers, to put his personal political neck on the block in pursuit of peace.

    mefty
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    Whilst very pleased to see John Major’s undoubted influence so warmly acknowledged, I don’t think Blair inherited a flat wicket and it took considerable political ability, albeit with less risk, to close it out. Blair’s relationship with Clinton was incredibly important.

    I am no fan of Blair, but I think it is a tad churlish not to recognise that he was a man of uncommon political ability, who is not without achievements.

    5thElefant
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    Blair was popular with the electorate but now everyone hates him.

    Really? Only freaks and weirdos hate him. Normal people will be indifferent.

    footflaps
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    I am no fan of Blair, but I think it is a tad churlish not to recognise that he was a man of uncommon political ability, who is not without achievements.

    Sadly he chose to use those uncommon abilities to reign terror upon the middle east rather than peace….

    ernie_lynch
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    Only freaks and weirdos hate him. Normal people will be indifferent.

    Really ? Even anti-Apartheid hero Desmond Tutu …… he’s ‘a freak and a weirdo’ too ?

    OK ‘hate’ might be too strong a word to associate with a man of the cloth, but Desmond Tutu certainly shares very simular views on Tony Blair to me, ie, that he is a war criminal who should be put on trial. He certainly isn’t “indifferent”.

    Edukator
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    I’m quite happy to be considered a freak or weirdo if the alternative is having to be indifferent to Blair (or his wife).

    Now Lance has admitted doping I’m left with Blair and Bono as models of immorality, and Clarkson as anti-Christ.

    konabunny
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    Only freaks and weirdos hate him.

    and Iraqis. and Afghans.

    CaptainFlashheart
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    😀 at the comments re yours truly above! Good work, folks! (Most of you, at least)

    zippykona
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    teamhurtmore
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    Powell, Forsyth, Blair – an unholy troika – the muddy waters become crystal…..

    ernie_lynch
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    “Save the Children staff furious over ‘global legacy’ award for Tony Blair”

    Freaks and weirdos ! They should be indifferent !

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