Went to watch Hope Sandoval at the Bristol Fleece last night - two tickets, £15 each (+ £2.50 ripoff booking fee). We got to see her band play for 40 minutes as the "support" act, then she put in a 25 minute stint of looking huffy and singing (a bit), before storming off at some perceived slight.
What the hell? I've been to better gigs when the lead singer has hurled a guitar at me. Can I have a refund please?
i paid a lot more than that to see prodigy earlier in the year. shit support and then they played a 45 min set.
it was good when they were playing but I wasnt best impressed.
I went to see Iron Maiden in Dublin last week. Awful sound, t's between 45 and 100 Euro each, parking 10 Euro, beer before the gig 4 Euro a pint, during the gig - E6.50. UK is so cheap....
I'd pay £15 to look at Hope Sandoval doing nothing for 10 minutes 
[edit] Had to be better than JAMC gig in London last year. Talk about going through the motions. And the girl doing the Hope vocal parts just could not sing in tune! **** awful.
jam bo, if you're still standing at the 45 minute point in a Prodigy gig then you're not close enough (or they've slowed down since I saw them 15 years ago)...
Paid something like €60,00 to see The Cure a couple of years ago, they played for 3 hours+ and Robert Smith threatened to come off the stage and kick the fu****g shit out of the t**t who was blinding him with a laser pointer. Pure entertainment and vfm.
she was born in 1966?? are all her pics airbrushed or does she really look that good and is still a year older than me?
We were right at the front, and my wife thought she was 20 something...
I think she looks that good mostly by making sure her face never changes from "sulky frown".
I'd post some pictures, but as well as being told to stay quiet throughout the set, we were all told (by a leathery old American) not to take pictures.
The Cure? Entertainment? Times have changed! I paid about £6 to see them in the early 80s and christ they were dull!
we were all told (by a leathery old American) not to take pictures.
Bloody good job too. Taking photos at gigs is for complete and utter WA....S!
before storming off at some perceived slight
We were right at the front..In the Fleece, you can be halfway down the corridor to the toilets and still be classed as 'right at the front'
DezB, whilst I agree with you to an extent, when you're right at the front of a gig watching a beautiful singer that gigs once in a blue moon, it would be nice to record the moment. Especially as last time I saw her she was wearing a full cloak and hood and this time she was wearing a rather fetching backless dress...
when you're right at the front of a gig watching a beautiful singer that gigs once in a blue moon, it would be nice to record the moment.
No - no it wouldn't. Live music is live music and is only belittled and squashed by ignorant muppets who spend half the gig with their stupid phones held above their head taking pictures and recording video to e-mail before they leave the gig to prove they were there. Portable recording media has ruined live gigs and the general belief that just because someone can record things they have to record things justifies their behaviour.
I have no pictures or recordings of the gigs I worked or attended. It doesn't change my memory and, for example, trying to compress Nirvana playing Teen Spirit live into an iphone would be trite and miss the point of a live gig.
Gotta have the judgement to know when to use any sort of recording device (camera, sound recording, video) and when to just enjoy the moment.
A pic or two of a gig is fine. If someone wants to video the entire gig, it's their night they're ruining (or at least turning into some sort of OCD recording fest).
Which brings up 
which is far better than any crap you can take at a gig. With your phone. Held in front of someone else's face.
which is far better than any crap you can take at a gig. With your phone. Held in front of someone else's face.
i agree in principle, but have you seen Grum's photos from gigs? there was a thread recently, he was quite away from the stage and got some terrific shots
Hello Mr. man stood in front of me at the gig, would you mind not videoing the entire thing on your phone holding it in the air above your head? I cannot see for your stupid iphone and also the phones of the other inconsiderate ****ts around you doing the exact same thing. Perhaps if you actually watched the gig and committed it to your memory you would enjoy it more? Excuse me while I resist the temptation growing within me to grab it from you to launch it full pelt at the stage.
What ruins live music is old blokes standing near the front TALKING LOUDLY ABOUT HOW THINGS WERE BETTER IN THE OLD DAYS BEFORE CAMERAS WERE INVENTED. Which I'm sure you don't do.
I dunno why I'm arguing though, I didn't have a camera with me, or a phone...it was just odd to get a lecture from an old hippy telling us to behave.
it was just odd to get a lecture from an old hippy telling us to behave.
I like that - I might just have to cultivate that persona - which might be hard to do. You said it might be nice to record the moment - I said that was ruining gigs. Do you go to gigs with the intention of hearing and seeing an act live, or are you there with the intent of capturing a few piccies / video minutes instead?
£9.00 to see Airship, The Baddies, and Joy Formidable at the O2 Oxford a few months ago with my lad. 3 and bit hours of properly decent music.
Top night out.
TooTall - hmm, could be tough - you need to be a bit more peace and love, and a bit less pomp and righteous indignation to do the old hippy thing.
And also, SHE WAS WEARING A NICE DRESS! However, generally I agree that camera phone is not the way I'd want to watch a gig, but what with the smelly armpit at head height guy, the pushing to the front 3 songs in girls, the talking old blokes, the drunken Muppet singing and clapping while spilling drinks on me, and Jeff the mad bouncing man at the front (famous in Bristol), people holding up phones is not top of my list of people to feed to tigers.
Anyway, has anyone successfully managed to get a refund when the lead act plays a shortened set?
Jeff the mad bouncing man at the front (famous in Bristol)
He seems to enjoy himself, but he's a bloody menace. I always thought he was a student. If he is, isn't it time his course finished?
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