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  • Getting more left wing as you get older.
  • coffeeking
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    I don’t think I’d ever even met a Tory in Liverpool.

    I know quite a few Tory supporting scousers.

    loddrik
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    Maybe so, but I’ve never met one.

    LittleTones
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    I was getting more right wing until this shower got in……..

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    Moses
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    “The facts of life do invariably turn out to be Tory.”

    Yep. The Tories get in & we’re all shafted.

    hh45
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    I’m getting more left wing as the harsh realisties of life (other peoples rather than mine) become more evident. Growing up in the south west in the 1980s there was no real debate or doubt over Tory policies like privatisation, selling council houses, closing down any industry that lost money for a two consecutive weeks, sucking up to America, watching millions of jobs go abroad and so on and now having lived in London for 20 years and met a few more people and witnessed the recession of the last three years and unwinding of the globalisation / financial services trick unwind, I think differently on all those issues.

    tazzymtb
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    If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain.”

    clearly a quote from a c**t.

    Winston Spencer Churchill actually to whom this country owes a great debt, you sir have no education and are obviously an oik

    simonfbarnes
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    Winston Spencer Churchill actually to whom this country owes a great debt

    is that even true? Remember he was voted out as soon as the war was over…

    allthepies
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    is that even true?

    FFS.

    tazzymtb
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    without his bloody minded booze fueled bravado and the bravery of the armed forces we’d have all been in a shower block sniffing zyklon B. He may have been crap on the post war stuff but he was good in a fight. 😀

    wpuk
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    The longer I work in the NHS and for/around the most financially poor and vulnerable people in society, the more lefty I seem to get. So do I do this job because I am a bedwetting bleeding heart socialist, or have I become one by meeting and knowing so many people who have been screwed over by the actions of our last few governments?

    I the opposite to be honest, the longer i work in the NHS the more im finding that there are plenty of sections in UK society that regardless of how much resources (money) you chuck at them, they still wont be able to aspire beyound the limitations of their IQ or inherint levels of common sense (or lack there of).

    crikey
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    I the opposite to be honest, the longer i work in the NHS the more im finding that there are plenty of sections in UK society that regardless of how much resources (money) you chuck at them, they still wont be able to aspire beyound the limitations of their IQ or inherint levels of common sense (or lack there of).

    I’m just glad you’re not an English teacher to be honest.

    chewkw
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    simonfbarnes – Member

    Winston Spencer Churchill actually to whom this country owes a great debt

    is that even true? Remember he was voted out as soon as the war was over…

    Yes, nothing unusual there as that’s just normal British politics being back stabbing and spin bending.

    🙄

    simonfbarnes
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    they still wont be able to aspire beyound the limitations of their IQ or inherint levels of common sense

    sense isn’t common and surely no one can successfully aspire beyond their abilities ?

    Sandwich
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    Common sense is a learned behaviour and should more correctly be called wisdom. One could have aspirations beyond ones abilities though Simon.

    5thElefant
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    sense isn’t common and surely no one can successfully aspire beyond their abilities ?

    Eddie the Eagle?
    John Prescott?
    Gordon Brown?
    Dubya?

    br
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    Getting something done, and then running it are two different skills – which is why Winston was only in for the former.

    I’m left-wing in that I believe that the citizen should be protected by the state, but right-wing in that I have no tolerance for fools/hangers-on and scroungers – and this covers from waster to tax-exile.

    Consequentially I’ve spent my entire adult life shouting at practically everything/body in the news – from Thatcher to Cameron via Blair/Brown – they are all knobs!

    simonfbarnes
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    One could have aspirations beyond ones abilities though Simon.

    but therefore unfulfilled ?

    billyboy
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    Strongly agree

    …..but it’s more the corruption that gets to me and that may seem to veer to the right but in reality is as much to the left

    Gonna run along for a long time,
    good god almighty gonna cut ’em down

    billyboy
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    That is “Strongly agree” that I’m going left the older I get….not agree with whatever was going on above

    Getting old

    El-bent
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    I wouldn’t p*ss on a right winger if he/she were on fire.

    druidh
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    Ah yes. The caring, sharing side of socialism.

    dekadanse
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    I think the only reason for the general trajectory of getting more right wing (or to put it another way, becoming less prepared to challenge established thinking and established order) as we get older is that we get more bought off and compromised by the system (mortgages, loans, trying to start businesses and become mini-me capitalists). We therefore seek to intellectually rationalise and justify the inevitable. But you know what? It’s all crap, an illusory pack of cards which collapses whenever the economy catches a cold.

    So the moral of the tale? Stay alert, bullshit detector (thanks, Joe Strummer) in hand. Those with money power and status want us to stay docile and subscribe to their injustices, here in the UK and worldwide (hello Egypt – show us the way!) Don’t – fight the power (thanks, Public Enemy) and stay critical leftists. I’m 59 and it works for me – infact I don’t think I have any alternative.

    gordimhor
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    I have been just as leftist as this for ever its you lot who are swinging to the right 😉

    BillMC
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    It never ceases to fascinate me how people who are not themselves owners or controllers of the means of production boast of their rightwing/Tory politics. They kiss the ring of their oppressors.

    simonfbarnes
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    I read today that 22 of the current cabinet are millionaires, which really tells us all we need to know 🙁

    5thElefant
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    I read today that 22 of the current cabinet are millionaires, which really tells us all we need to know

    That they are less likely to fiddle their expenses?

    BillMC
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    Wrong. 23 out of 29 and yes millionaire David Laws did fiddle his expenses.

    simonfbarnes
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    people don’t get rich without being tight with their money…

    crazy-legs
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    people don’t get rich without being tight with their money…

    Politicians are only tight with their own money. It’s everybody else’s money that gets pissed up against the wall…

    simonfbarnes
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    Feel my pain – I’ve just discovered my son is a Tory (he calls it “pragmatist”, but it seems to amount to the same thing). Oh the shame 🙁

    craigxxl
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    I’ve gone more right wing from my left upbringing. I see more and more people who are simply bone idle abusing the system and blaming someone else for their laziness be it immigrants or the Tories for taking jobs the never applied for. I’m a fan of the welfare state even though it hindered as much as helped my handicapped brothers. It’s time for people to responsibility for their own situations as did my brothers and be all the better for it.

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