Look angeldust, I’m sure you are very clever and the people you work with are also members of mensa, however that won’t stop you dying in a train crash or a gas explosion or having a wall collapse on you.

Thats why H&S exists. 50 years ago workplace fatalities numbered several thousand a year, now it’s around 175. H&S regs have saved many thousands of lives, prevented hundreds of thousands of life changing injuries and for smug people to decry what we do, as a job done by people not clever enough to do anything better is pathetic and insulting.

Sure, as in any line of work there are some who are not very good at it and they tend to generate the ridiculous headlines you read in the daily mail, but for most of us, we work in a carreer which makes Britain one of the safest countries in which to work. And I for one think that it’s something to be proud of, not ridiculed.

LOL. How many people doing this world class research do you think have h&s positions? Your example of long term health risks from new technology is very worthwile research, but it really hasn’t got anything to do with h&s officers in industry. Do you think passing on general recommendations verbatim makes you a scientist :roll:.

In my area of expertise you become a h&s officer because you are a poor scientist! Seen in happen on multiple occasions. Sorry if that pisses on your chips, but it’s the way it is.

In my area of expertise you become a h&s officer because you are a poor scientist!

You obviously don’t work in a very dangerous or technical industry. Either that, or yor employers don’t take their responsibilities very seriously.

Our HSE Advisors are fantastic.

Do you think passing on general recommendations verbatim makes you a scientist :roll:.

no I’m a scientist that’s involved in toxicology and occupational health and safety. who has developed improved work methods to reduce rates of secondary infections in orthopaedic implant surgery, carried out specialist research into occupational ill health of air crew from fume incidents in commercial aircraft, recently prevented a major incident which would have been on par with buncefield and I’m one of the leading experts in certain fields of my profession.

I can also tick a box now n then

I’d love to come and play in your world though, it sounds a piece of piss. xx

Angeldust, you are Jeremy Clarkson (complete with fake doctorate) and I claim my £5

🙂

Angeldust, you are Jeremy Clarkson (complete with fake doctorate) and I claim my £5

🙂

no I’m a scientist that’s involved in toxicology and occupational health and safety. who has developed improved work methods to reduce rates of secondary infections in orthopaedic implant surgery, carried out specialist research into occupational ill health of air crew from fume incidents in commercial aircraft, recently prevented a major incident which would have been on par with buncefield and I’m one of the leading experts in certain fields of my profession.

I hear you are also discovering the Higgs Boson on Monday, as long as it doesn’t interfere with ticking people off on your clipboard during the planned fire drill? 🙄

I’d love to come and play in your world though, it sounds a piece of piss. xx

If you are doing so in your capacity as a h&s officer, then yes, it would be a piece of piss. Can’t argue there! 😆
If that comment is an attempt to disparage my profession, then you just look desparately defensive, as I haven’t mentioned what I do. Care to proove otherwise?

Angeldust, you are Jeremy Clarkson (complete with fake doctorate) and I claim my £5

😉

as long as it doesn’t interfere with ticking people off on your clipboard during the planned fire drill?

😀

If you are doing so in your capacity as a h&s officer

I’m not, I’ve explained what I do….keep up 😆

If that comment is an attempt to disparage my profession, then you just look desparately defensive, as I haven’t mentioned what I do

not in the slightest, but if you’d care to enlighten me, I’ll happily demonstrate to you how proper health and safety applies even in whatever it is you do. big kisses XX

it’s nice to see a moderately well educated troll for once though, although you are playing the “box ticker” a bit too much. One of the more experienced trolls would have changed tack at least twice by now 😉

no I’m a scientist that’s involved in toxicology and occupational health and safety. who has developed improved work methods to reduce rates of secondary infections in orthopaedic implant surgery, carried out specialist research into occupational ill health of air crew from fume incidents in commercial aircraft, recently prevented a major incident which would have been on par with buncefield and I’m one of the leading experts in certain fields of my profession.

and yet still, demonstrably, a bit thick 🙂

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Thats why H&S exists. 50 years ago workplace fatalities numbered several thousand a year, now it’s around 175. H&S regs have saved many thousands of lives, prevented hundreds of thousands of life changing injuries and for smug people to decry what we do, as a job done by people not clever enough to do anything better is pathetic and insulting.

The planet is full so let a few go …

and yet still, demonstrably, a bit thick

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ACE!! 😆

*why else would I ride singlespeed? it’s only because gears confuse me. much like the lightening fast wit and repartee on here 😉

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Right. Im gonna bite.

1st. Twitter for jobs surprisingly is very good #h&S.
Try and get training and a job within the firm you currently work for as you will know the work and WILL find it easier to apply the H&S logic.

As for H&S being a job for the numpty. Yes and no. Ive met a lot of incomunicative, ignorant and impractical H&S people over the years. However ive also met an equal number of open minded and intensley practical people who have helped business progress.

As a small example. With a laser show waiting for the completion of a certain tall pointed building in that there london the pressure was very much on for trades to speed up. Enter a foriegn contractor throwing caution to the wind and letting workers throw caution (and very likely themselves) to the wind too. At 86 floors up its nice if people tie them selves off to a fixed line before approaching a leading edge. Not if you havent enough kit and its the middle of the night and wink wink no one will see. Work stopped and kit ordered. Romanian labour to scared for there jobs to speak up. Just one of thousands of examples.

By the way. Im and ex QS who just got fed up sending small businesses to the wall by stretching payment periods and therefore making big money for “the firm”

Oh. Hello john. Gallifords seems a long time ago….

hi kev – wont ask if i’m a numpty or not 😉 yeah a few years since Gallifords, you keeping ok? I’m a bit busy with our 4 1/2 week old baby boy!!

Doing good john.

Congratulations. Forget about riding for a week or two now!

Drop me a mail

kevin DOT pritchard at worksafeconsulting dot co dot uk

Bigsi,

made the same switch by accident, 2 years ago.

H&S is about people and business culture change. If you are a people person with a good sales/presentation techniques and the ability to help people find their own solutions AND enjoy doing this, it’s probably a good move.
If you prefer working solo and frequently find people frustrating, annoying stupid or arrogant and don’t like dealing with them, it may not be the right career move for you.

I can’t help with the qualifications thing as I am not UK based.
Good luck.

For H&S to be properly effective, the management of any company need to be involved and they have to be the ones that drive it. Despite whatever gets said about an H&S Professional, they are not actually in charge of H&S in the workplace. The role of an H&S manager is to monitor & measure the system and to make sure it is effective. Line managers are responsible for H&S matters in their respective departments. The H&S manager is there to provide support and advice when required.

I work in the oil & gas industry in QHSE and am a firm believer in the common sense approach. I don’t have the answers for everything and rely on the guys who are actually exposed to the hazard to give feedback on how to make things safer. I do also have a technical background having spent many years both on and offshoe working in various engineering roles.

As mentioned previously, H&S is a legal requirement in the workplace and another role of the H&S professional is to keep the company out of court. Of course you will get resistance when you try to bring about change ( mainly from the “I’ve been doing this for 20 years and never had an accident” brigade) but whether anybody likes it or not, H&S is here to stay.