not the one i was thinking off but he sounds a right tosser !!!!!!
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Farmer gets very very nasty toward mtb group, help required, please.
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I would certainly write a letter to the local police so that should things get worse, there is something on file. The police would generally have a word with him anyway after that just to let him know they're in the loop
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Firstly, you're within your rights to use this path so I'd not be concerned once you can overlook the abuse. If the ROW office don't do anything then you're kind of on your own.
Secondly, having tried to be reasonable he's obviously still got a problem but he's obviously not prepared to share that with you, so that's his perogative.
My personal approach would actually be to use the path more often (maybe co-ordinate this with other riders so that the path is used every day!), I would expect that he'd soon get tired of hurling abuse if it became a weekly, or daily event! Petty, but ultimately entertaining.
If it ever gets violent of threatening then you're still in the right and then get the police involved.
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Apart from the obvious, sensible suggestions - mass ride every night for a week.
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Result....ROW man very interested to speak to me further, this chap was already under watch ??
and on a lighter note…..Just an idea ? How about I get my lot, say about 20 riders, we then get 30 good folk of STW and do a night ride up this bridleway ? Probably meet the chap at the top of his lane and have a group hugThanks for all the help (and the funny aggressive bits) cheers Nick.
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Cap Tang : This man is a danger to other mtbers and I intend to do something about him, his behaviour and attitude is not acceptable.
Fair enough ...just having a super mellow moment. Just give us a shout if ROW officer needs supprting statements etc.
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Keep it legal initially.
If ROW man/Polis fall through, then take the piss. Mass rides, nail notices to every fence post detailing the relcvant section of the law, you name it. Try not to get shot mind.
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Notice any interesting vegetation?
When people are unreasonably aggressive, I often find there is another reason.
In Oz this sort of behaviour would suggest he had an "alternative" crop and was wanting to keep people from seeing it. That he is on guard so quickly suggests he may actually be out every night keeping an eye on it.
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It's not this c0ck is it ?
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Get the police involved and let us know how it develops.
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No probs Tangs, and if I need you evidence I will let you know.
Still on a lighter note “epicyclo” there was a large truck delivering stuff marked hydroponics, barns all lit up like 4th of July, large thick black power cables running everywhere, windows boarded up with black bin liners, 1000 bags of compost stacked ready to grow something in and I felt slightly dizzy when I got nearer the farm so , no nothing to suggest something dodgy going on…..lol
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I'd want to speak to the police and try and get something in their files. Even an email to your CPO. Mainly just in case he escalates and actually knocks one of you off.
His inevitable excuse of 'I didn't expect bikers to be around at that time and didn't see him' will be far less credible.
Chr1st I'm pessimistic today! :-/
We had a similar problem (the farmer's wife actually) that was solved via ROW officer. She'd padlocked the gate blocking a BOAT so there was concrete evidence when the ROW chap visited.
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RicB - that's not 'Screaming Farmers Wife' @ Bramhope(ish) N.Leeds by any chance, is it?
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There used to be a similar farmer around here. He used to threaten people with shooting while holding a shotgun under his arm.
He did it to a group of bikers once to often. One was a firearms rozzer who had him in the back of a van within 30 minutes, and he was sent down for it.
Bingo.
I'd video him; the more irate he gets, the better the footage.
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I've been on that track this summer, but it was during the day and had no trouble,which is good as i was on my own.
Are you truning right to join the road before it turns into a footpath (sorry to ask such an obvious question, as i'm sure you can read a map). Just interested as i plan on doing that route again soon.
Its also on the Hutton le Hole route in the VG North York Moors route guide, so i'd expect he should see quite a few bikers about.
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He generally brings his “large son” in a land rover to the end of the bridleway, waits until we have gone through the last gate and then starts to get abusive and confrontational ?, before following the group back to the main road hurling abuse from his vehicle.
beat him up ?
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Abuse.. what does he say?
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Blackflag; Yes I definetly keep to the bridleway and not the path, as the path goes straight to his farm and the bridleway intersection is clearly marked.
Gruenermoench: He uses several expletives but seems to struggle with large words. On the funny side he seems to think we are on the whole a bunch of freaks how hang around the moors in large groups in the dark covered in copious amount of mud …… hang on a minute he may just be correct ? It takes all sorts to make a world.
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Lord Greenville- yes that was indeed the one and only Screaming Farmers Wife!
I think it was Jules who sorted it all, I can't take any credit.
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Our local Police became involved (were really very good) when people felt threatened, had a chat and no probs since.
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Given the increase in countryside crime how does a "poor"farmer judge who are the good guys and who is not??
Not excusing him in any way but my countryside living mate has just had the radio stolen out of his van parked beside his house overnight. ironically his son is a PC and so is his neighbour..................
Seems to be a bit of an outbreak around here recently of farm thefts.Some areas of North Yorks/Lakes have set up a neighbourhood watch style patrol system to monitor the lanes and hills, can`t remember what it is called.
This maybe?If he is agressive try a good old fashioned letter copied to the chief constable, ROW man, council chief,any other local farmers co-operative/organisation and your/a solicitor.
Must be a local branch of http://www.nfuonline.com/x2630.xmlPosted 2 years ago # -
invite horse for a ride with you - not only is he huge hes also a bobby (in settle ) g
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STW forum ride, 49 people may trump his 'large son'.
Report it to the ROW oficier and the police, then video it and repeat the complaint. Bit like nasty dogs really, need to attack at least twice before it is taken seriously
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Spoke to police and they are not interested
Not good enough. What he's doing is illegal. That's not civil, 'Rights of Way illegal' it's 'criminal' 'police action required' - 'behaviour likely to cause a breach of the peace' at very least due to his language.
Who did you speak to? Local plod? PC on the phone? Which force are we talking about? I'd call the switchboard, ask to speak to the Duty Inspector and explain again politely that you'd like them to give him and son 'words of advice' at the very least.
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Tell him you will poison his sheep and burn his house if he doesn't leave off?
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Tell him you're going to report him to the police and local firearms officer for abusive and threatening behavior if he continues. Maybe the thought the loss of his guns may calm him down a bit.
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What's the "local firearms officer" got to do with all this ? No mention of guns by the OP.
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Chop off a sheeps head and leave it on the drivers seat of his landrover.
Phone and ask to speak to his son, tell him your his boy friend.
Phone the police and say he said he has a gun and will shoot you if you don't stay off his land.
Or perhaps not.
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If a gun license holder has been threatening/abusive the police have the right to take away his gun license therefore he can loose his guns. As I was told by three people this week at work who all shoot.
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Ah, I see - good point.
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To keep you good people informed:
No doubt this farmer and probably his son have a big gun each with the appropriate licences. I am not looking to cause a massive issue here and make these peoples life’s more difficult or to become vindictive , I just feel there must come a point where he is told by the relevant authority that his persistant abusive behaviour is unacceptable and he must allow groups to use this bridleway without feeling the need to cause confrontation.
As I said ROW office is now looking into the matter and I would assume they will let me know the outcome in due course.
If get my head blown off next week please give my cycle to charity .
Nick.
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If he hasn't threatened anyone with a gun, it's not fair to accuse him of this. A gun on a farm is an essential tool.
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>If he hasn't threatened anyone with a gun, it's not fair to accuse him of this. A gun on a farm is an essential tool.
Yes but as above you want level-headed reasonable people to be licensed to hold/use firearms. Not loons who repeatedly threaten/intimidate people going about legal activities.
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it's not fair to accuse him of this
It's not fair for him to be abusive. As far as I understood it a gun doesn't have to be present it's the abusive behavior of the individual, but I could be wrong.
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