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  • F1 – Was it any good?
  • BigBikeBash
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    Please don't give the result away but was the race any good or another parade like Bahrain?

    Pook
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    A classic. Absolutely brilliant. Honestly. A riot from start to finish. F1 has answered a lot of critics.

    adeward
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    i would say it's worth watching the hi lights,, way better than the last one

    ziggy
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    Yep watched it earlier, may even watch it again later.

    All I can say is Alonso on the team radio "I don't want to know" 😆

    MrWoppit
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    I rather liked Lewis Hamilton's impersonation of Violet Elizabeth Bott at the end…

    hug
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    way better than you'll be expecting after Bahrain,I shall watch again shortly

    BigBikeBash
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    Bugger – The digital recorder crashed and hasn't recorded anything. Will catch it later

    father
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    Yes it was good. Plenty of overtaking, a few spills and a victory for a driver who thought about what was going on and made a tactical choice without referring to the team.

    billybob
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    A quality topsy turvy unpredictable race, planned on watching it on iplayer this morning whilst doing sunday morning chores – it's just finished & I've not completed any chores.

    Surely there's an argument for watering the track before every race.

    Talkemada
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    A race won by a genius decision, and a real gamble that worked.

    rOcKeTdOg
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    worth waking up at 6am on a sunday for imo

    how many toys can you get in a F1 car to throw out during the race? 🙂

    69er
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    Bwilliant!

    CountZero
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    Looked like the winner put it out of gear and freewheeled over the finish line. Good win.

    stoney
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    Last one was dull as dishwater, this one was`nt 😛 proper enjoyed it i did

    zaskar
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    Come on Shumi!

    YoungDaveriley
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    Absolutely brilliant,close racing,loads of overtaking….who needs World Superbikes?

    votchy
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    *****DO NOT READ IF YOU DON@T KNOW THE RESULT*****

    Don't think it was a classic, think it was fairly tame really once the track was dry, still shows that overtaking is very difficult once you get in the dirty air as showed by Hamilton, 2s per lap faster than Alonso but couldn't get past, Alonso unable to get past Massa, genius decision by Button. Nice to see the young guns not intimidated by Schuey, wonder if he is having second thoughts about his comeback?

    ScottChegg
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    I can't see the German lasting out his 3 year contract. If it doesn't get a lot better quickly he'll be gone at the end of the year.

    Nice bit of foot stamping by Ham; very funny. And as for all those folks who said that Button would hate McLaren because it was a team built around wee Lewis must be choking today. Button looked nice and comfy to me.

    CaptainMainwaring
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    Have to wait and see what the next dry races are like. The race was exciting for F1, but then again so are all F1 races in wet/dry conditions. My money is on a return to boredom in the dry

    MrSalmon
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    I can't see the German lasting out his 3 year contract. If it doesn't get a lot better quickly he'll be gone at the end of the year.

    Dunno, he didn't get where he is/was by qutting when it wasn't going his way. OTOH I suppose now he has nothing to prove.

    glenp
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    Great race.

    As for not being able to overtake because of aero – that opinion just isn't borne-out in the evidence of this race is it? Take away mechanical grip and suddenly we had tons of overtaking. When the grip came back the race settled down (although was still a great watch).

    I thought the Hamilton toy throwing was highly amusing. He is the one that is notoriously hard on tyres, so how he can complain that the team wanted him on newer tyres is a bit of a mystery.

    stumpy01
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    The rain & mistakes caused most of the overtaking. As soon as there was a dry line we quickly had a procession of cars that couldn't overtake each other – all sat with about 1.3 secs between them & unable to do anything about it.

    Overall though it was the most interesting race i have seen in years!

    I reckon that Ecclestone should bring in water cannons for next year to mix things up a bit.

    psychle
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    Good call from Button, especially if he made the decision himself (against team orders?) worked out bloody well for him in the end 🙂

    Who was in that major crash with the chap who lost his wing? That could've been VERY nasty! 😯 Quite lucky really that someone wasn't seriously injured…

    glenp
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    Wasn't tat Kobayashi in the Sauber losing the front wing and spearing into the Williams? Could have been really nasty – at least they have the extra high cockpit sides now.

    ScottChegg
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    Schumacher got stuck for 30 laps being teh Toro Rosso. When his team radio'd to give him a gee up, he found a way past. Not the action of a motivated racer.

    He left at the top of his game, if he's come back to womble around the mid field I'll be very suprised; he'll want to be at the front.

    clubber
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    Not the action of a motivated racer.

    Not sure that's true. In the end he got past by barging past – by then it was clear that he was either going to score no points if he didn't try or could try and maybe crash out in which case nothing lost. Earlier on, that wasn't so clear.

    I'm no MS fan btw. In fact I really quite dislike him but I think it's silly to say that because he couldn't get past a decent car that he's not motivated.

    ScottChegg
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    MS has never been much of an overtaker; he tended to make up places while the pitstops were going on. But it's funny how he could find a way past once he was given a verbal kick up the bum. If he'd have done that 30 laps earlier, he would look slightly less outclassed by his journeyman teammate.

    Mark my words, empty seat at Merc next year.

    the-muffin-man
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    Mark my words, empty seat at Merc next year.

    …I think he'll be lucky to see the season out.

    Slow Car + Faster Team Mate = Heidfeld gets to race again!!

    And its looking like the Honda, Brawn, Merc got lucky with last years car.

    glenp
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    Journeyman team-mate? Where do you get that from? Nico is a class act, and its no surprise that Schumacher is struggling to get on terms.

    I still think that at this stage Schumacher is more concerned with developing the car and not making mistakes (although I guess you could call it a mistake to stay stuck behind the STR). Quite honestly it is a mistake to make any judgement about F1 until they get back to Europe – so I'm reserving judgement on Schumi and Mercedes. Nico, I already know is a great driver.

    BTW if you think Schumacher couldn't overtake you should take a look at 1996 Spanish GP!

    clubber
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    A couple of points

    The consensus was that MS was generally faster than NR until qualifying – even then it was close – which was a step on from Bahrain. Frankly I'm not suprised that it's taking time for him to get back to where he was. I guess we'll see over the next two or three races whether that's the case.

    As to getting lucky with the car, not really. While they had the time and resources to develop a great car for the start of 2009, they didn't have the cash to develop as much as the other big teams and consequently this year's car hasn't caught up the gap to the teams that was there at the end of last year (Brawn definitely didn't have the fastest car by the end of 2009). As such, they're still playing catchup a bit plus by all accounts they made a bit of a mistake in designing the weight balance a bit too far back IIRC – I reckon that this year they'll gradually move on but will probably be up there again next year.

    billybob
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    I think Hamilton's issue is believing his own hype – actually being found out Button can be faster than him by out qualifying & racing him has come as a shock. Would've been interesting to be a fly on the wall in the Ferrari pit at the end of the race.

    uplink
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    Nico Rosberg has made a habit of dominating his team-mates – looks like he's carrying on in the same vein at Merc
    When someone does that it's usually a sign of of quality rather than consistently crap team-mates.

    He quietly gets on with the job & hardly appears on most peoples radar
    If the dice fall well for him, he could easily be a world champ one day

    adeward
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    i think Micheal is in there to help develop the car,, i have worked with both him and rosburg,, ,, it was a few years ago but M is a great development driver, he gives so much information whereas rosburg is young and fast,, but he hasnt as much experience

    quick story i was at a test with Benetton shummacher came in and started going through the lap describing the cars handling at every corner,, johnney Hurbert was the other driver,, when asked how the car was he just said,, ummm can i have another couple of laps,,, he was known as johney the goldfish from then on

    ScottChegg
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    Rosberg is more dogged than talented. He's an average driver, which means there are better candidates for World Champ at the moment. Heidfeld was always given champ-in-waiting status, but he's slipped away.

    Schumacher was always feted as being a driving god when it was wet, what happened to that? He's done everything, so where's his motivation?

    Let's hope for more rain this weekend, it always spices things up.

    glenp
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    Rosberg is more dogged than talented. He's an average driver…

    Interesting opinion. Based on what? He's only been in a Williams so far, but all the same has produced some superb results and very very quick times. Now he's outclassing the most successful driver of all time (albeit in the twilight of his career). Can't see where the "average" comes from.

    GaryLake
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    No mention of Kubica? I really rate Rosberg but Kubica is more of a future world champ in the waiting I reckon.

    That '08 BMW was quite a way off the pace of the Mclaren and Ferarri yet he consistently stuck it up there among them – if only BMW hadn't ballsed up the '09 one. And his drive on Sunday was stellar! That Renault shouldn't be on the podium yet.

    If Renault don't improve consistently, Kubica at Mercedes for 2011?

    uplink
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    No mention of Kubica? I really rate Rosberg but Kubica is more of a future world champ in the waiting I reckon.

    I get the felling with Kubica that he'll always be nearly there a bit like Barrichello I suppose
    Maybe he needs better advice but he seems to 'miss out' on the really good drives

    glenp
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    Champions of the future: Vettel, Kubica, Rosberg – probably in that order of likelihood.

    Kubica's drive was brilliant. Drive of the race was probably Alonso – until he came up behind Massa he was just streaking through the field.

    dooosuk
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    actually being found out Button can be faster than him by out qualifying & racing him has come as a shock.

    I'm not sure that's true (fair enough in qualifying but not the race). Hamilton overtook Button fair and square at the start of the race and then lost out by being held in the pit lane. If it hadn't of been for his second stop I'd of put money on Hamilton catching Button.

    ScottChegg
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    Rosbergs career so far has been Team Rosberg (run by his dad – how did he get that drive?) and Williams as you say. His record of out pacing his team mate at Williams loses a bit of puff when you recall it was Nakajima (A Japanese chap driving a Toyota engine – how did he get that drive?)

    Hence the journeyman comment. Only history will show whether I'm right or wrong.

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