What would you consider the F1 of both road and mountain biking ?

I know this is a silly question but i need some answers 😀

I know this is a silly question but i need some silly answers

Dunno. But I’d like to think I’m more into the rallying version of mountain biking. I ride in short stages, often sideways and crash a lot..

Don’t think there is one. F1 cars are so advanced there’s no way joe public could ever buy one. With enough money you can have the same bike or better, than any of the pro’s. There’ll be one off’s like shock specs and new products but in a year or two they’ll trickle down to the general market.

Closest I think we’ve came was with the old Honda DH team, but not seen the likes since.

Dunno. But I’d like to think I’m more into the rallying version of mountain biking. I ride in short stages, often sideways and crash a lot..

haha true

Closest I think we’ve came was with the old Honda DH team, but not seen the likes since.

I was more thinking about what disciplines are pushing the technology and so on.

Sorry for my enghlish

Bit of both – road pushes the limits of aero and DH pushes the limits of suspension kinematics.

Which leaves the engine !

Nah, DH can’t be the F1 of cycling. Too simple. F1 is not about the driver, its about the team, the strategy, the technology of the car. The driver just drives to a procedure…at this corner take it in this gear at those revs, and apply this pressure to the brake pedal and start braking at that point, and take this line. And as the race develops the whole tam works on the fly working out new strategies. It’s very measured, done by numbers and has a vast team behind it to make it work.

DH is all about he rider once out on course, the team are just spectators and can’t influence the outcome once the racing has started. If there is an F1 of cycling it has to be the grand tours – vast infrastructure and resources supporting the rider, high technology employed, all the care of the rider, the rest of the team working for the success of one rider, alot of strategy going on, before the racing starts and during as things change and develop, and now done by numbers – take this climb at the power output, if you want to try a break away go at this power for this long, then drop back the this power for that long and if you’ve not dropped them then give up and recover and wait for another chance to have a go etc.

Time Trialling surely….advanced aerodynamics and boring as hell.

The driver just drives to a procedure…at this corner take it in this gear at those revs, and apply this pressure to the brake pedal and start braking at that point, and take this line

I think you have a simplistic view of what a racing driver does. If what you say is true, each team’s drivers would have essentially the same performance.

Nah, DH can’t be the F1 of cycling. Too simple. F1 is not about the driver, its about the team, the strategy, the technology of the car. The driver just drives to a procedure..

This is the problem with F1 at the moment, its about none of those things. It’s about who’s got the money to throw at the best engine, as the boss of Red Bull said yesterday.

what disciplines are pushing the technology

TBH, cycling is very low-tech compared with motor racing (or America’s Cup yachting too), there just isn’t enough money in it. The big F1 teams have in the region of 1000 technical staff to run two cars in 20 races. If cycling went high-tech (e.g. active suspension and regenerative braking/electric assist), it would quickly drive nearly everybody out of the sport without doing anything to make it a better sport for riders or spectators.

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This is the problem with F1 at the moment, its about none of those things. It’s about who’s got the money to throw at the best engine, as the boss of Red Bull said yesterday.

Nonsense. Williams and Force India both have the best engine on the grid, where are they in the championship standings? All the engine suppliers spend a shit load.

It’s about a whole load of factors coming together, as Lance Stroll being on the front row today shows.

And also I don’t recall RedBull complaining about Renault’s development budget when they were delivering engines which allowed them to implement exhaust blowing solutions which won them the championship.