Norway or similar is the 650b of brexit, the pointless middle ground that nobody really wants and just means tons of disruption and expense for trivial benefit. It still costs us money, influence and opportunity, it doesn’t Turk Bark Control enough… It’d be a classic fudge but realistically if these had been the options on the ballot paper: stay in eu, or have a norway style arrangement, the vote would have been “stay in EU”.

Seems harsh.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43521321

Of course the norway option is shit. hard brexit is shitter.

Which is 29” and which is 26” though? It matters as if I could only choose one it would be 29” but would choose 650b over 26”.😕

Brexit is trading in a carbon Enduro gnarpoon for a Walmart bso & trying to convince yourself it’s just as great

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-trade-customs-union-theresa-may-a-managed-surrender/

ah yes but is it a blue  BSO ?

ninfan wrote:

whereas in reality the brexiteers have shrugged their shoulders and said “who cares, it’s saved 50 million quid” in the belief that Danny La Rue should have sharpened their pencils a bit when bidding for the contract.

Yeah, that’s definitely what’s happened

So a BRITISH company, De La Rue, has LOST out to a FRENCH company to make our new BRITISH passports?????Now, under EU…

Posted by UK – Its time to Grow on Thursday, March 22, 2018

Yep Twitter was stuffed with brexies frothing over that one

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/24/brexit-whistleblower-cambridge-analytica-beleave-vote-leave-shahmir-sanni

Challenge Anneka returns for one-off special to build post-Brexit Irish border

Simon Hart, a Conservative, goes next.

Q: Have you made any assessment as to whether this over-spending would have affected the result?

Wylie says he has two points.

First, if someone is caught doping in the Olympics, no one asks if that made the different to them winning the race.

You should not win by cheating, he says.

He says this vote made a fundamental change to the constitution of the country.

Second, Dominic Cummings himself said the internet campaign was what made all the difference, he says.

He says the “conversion rates” for the campaign’s online advertising were “incredibly effective”.

He says it is perfectly credible to say that, without cheating, there would have been a different result.

cheaters

I think we may be heading to the high court here….

Interesting that this story is mostly unreported by the BBC which has instead gone for blanket wall-to-wall coverage of a few dozen people standing around with placards criticising Corbyn over anti-semitism.

A case of ‘he who pays the piper, calls the tune’, one suspects.

The Australian cricket team cheating in a game (not even against England) has made more news in this country than the leave campaign cheating over something that will affect everyone in this countries life. This country is ******

No wonder Cummings deleted his Twitter account, it must’ve been dawning on him that he was incriminating himself & the campaign

The allergations were widely reported on the BBC relating to the funding, Where is the quote above from and when was it said? Was it in the last hour?

Do we think this cheating issue will affect the result?

Oh and it’s here

The select committee is currently hearing from whistleblower Christopher Wylie, who accused his former employer, Cambridge Analytica, of gathering the details of 50 million users on Facebook through a personality quiz in 2014.

He alleges that because 270,000 people took the quiz, the data of some 50 million users, mainly in the US, was harvested without their explicit consent via their friend networks.

Mr Wylie claims the data was sold to Cambridge Analytica, which then used it to psychologically profile people and deliver pro-Trump material to them.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-43554135

Filed under If Mark Zuckerberg will front up to parliament, it look slike it’s an evolving piece so being updated as the hear and write it

Do we think this cheating issue will affect the result?

I don’t think it will.

Gone too far now.

Gone too far now.

It can be stopped this afternoon.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2018/mar/27/tony-blair-tells-tories-to-block-brexit-if-they-want-to-avoid-corbyn-government-politics-live

sadly even though it looks like CA/ AIQ/Vote Leave blatantly broke the law to subvert democracy, teh swivel eyed Brexies, including May, are far too comitted now

The best we could see is some people from  CA/ AIQ/Vote Leave being prosecuted, it also raises further questions about teh current government trying to keep teh DUP donations secret

Emergency debate in parliament today re Vote Leave.
MPs: this Google drive is key evidence.
Set up by VL to co-ordinate BeLeave's content. On right: the deletion log.
March 1, Electoral Commission opened investigation.
March 17, Vote Leave deleted itself from 140 files pic.twitter.com/7QkgrojWPU

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) March 27, 2018

If they call another referendum will this thread get closed and a new one started ?

and the storm moves on

https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/fintan-o-toole-abortion-fake-news-firestorm-heading-our-way-1.3440927

Really is looking like democracy is having some problems.

So leavers not particularly interested in whether the rules of democracy are followed!!!

Who’d have thought it?

From mrmo’s link…

quote from the director of the Vote Leave campaign, Dominic Cummings: “Without a doubt, the Vote Leave campaign owes a great deal of its success to the work of AggregateIQ. We couldn’t have done it without them”.

People would be more concerned of there was a decently evidenced allegation, nothing in the Observer comes close to that.  Comes across as someone looking vainly for a secret weapon to excuse Remain’s and Hilary’s losses.

Well if it stops the country from a massive act of self-harm, I’ll clutch at them straws!

So if the government voted to keep the DUP deal secret & Brexiters that voted for it knew it was an illegal , were they trying to cover up their own crimes?

People would be more concerned if they  valued democracy rather than the win. The  claim there is no evidence is as  brazen as a trump tweet and frankly beneath you and serious response.

The only issue is whether their dark arts were  decisive- I assume neither of think the winners were so bad they “cheated” with a method that did not work.

Really? You missed the bit about making a donation to somebody then controlling exactly what they were doing with the cash? That isn’t legal within UK rules.

Where is the evidence, just some barely credible jokers.

So that video above showing who was directing things? That isn’t evidence?

I guess it’s a little inconvenient to think that this was a deliberate conspiracy. Going to ruin a few

There is abslute hard evidence of the overspending and the illegal paper only transfers of money.  clearly illegal

That GIF, no that is not evidece, it isn’t even a decent presentation.

Perhaps we shall let the courts decide based on what is presented to them. Of course you could go for plan A, deny, Plan B Attack the evidence, Plan C attack the source… it’s all very Trumpian and we can see how well that is working out for him.

There u go mefty

Im sure the shredders have been working overtime, but much harder to delete digital footprint

Oh dear. This is from AIQ which worked for Vote Leave during the referendum. Talking about how to delete the data they may have accidentally harvested. That, um, 'goes against UK privacy laws'. Whoops.
@ICOnews you there? https://t.co/Xa1avLlI9s

— Carole Cadwalladr (@carolecadwalla) March 27, 2018

That is only evidence that they worked to ensure that their data was legal, hardly nefarious activity.

Your naivety is charming, but don’t worry im sure the brexiter elites will make sure that no one of consequence will face the music

Perhaps we shall let the courts decide based on what is presented to them.

It was in court last week, Court confirmed Election Commission had said legal to donate to other campaigns if no co-ordination.