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  • Ethical dilemma – wills
  • TandemJeremy
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    Namely mine and Mrs TJs wills

    If we both die ( no helmets tandem under a bus) there is around 1/4 million to be distributed. Who to leave it to is the question.

    We have no children. My sister is comfortable middle class and does not need money, my two nephews could do with a few thousand to get thru uni, Mrs TJ has a bunch of nieces and nephews non of whom are poor and all of who are middle aged.

    Mrs TJ has a bunch of great nieces and nephews (17??) most of whom we don’t really know and most of whom are in their 20s anyway.

    My old will had some going to friends children they are now in their 20s and have families so a few thousand makes no odds to them really.

    I don’t see why (for example) my nephews should get £60 000 from me (1/4 of the estate)

    So – there is far more people on Mrs TJs side of the family than mine. Do we split it all up between all the generation below us and and they get £10 000 apiece? Some of these folk I have never met. (half to the few folk on my side of the family and half to her side or same amount to everyone?

    £1000 to everyone (leaving £200 000+) and the rest in trust fund for education for anyone who needs it of any generation? How to decide who needs it?

    Do we give the bulk to the poorer folk or distribute it equally? Or give everyone a token amount and the rest to charity? or sod the lot of ’em?

    Thoughts?

    Ta

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    my e-mail is in profile and I will out live you 😉

    Do what you feel is best if you are not close to the family or they have no real need why not donate it to something you care about? Why not release lots of it before you die and do good works you will see the results of in your lifetime. Why not piss it up the wall enjoying your last days in hedonistic glee.

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Make a good case 🙂

    fadda
    Full Member

    Sell up now, and have a whale of a time, yourselves…?

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    I edited [ wanted to make sure I got the gag in first]To be fair I have no need either except to pay for my kids through uni but I am hoping a parent dies about the right time to fund this ….if only this was a joke oh the stigma of [posh ] working class angst

    spock
    Free Member

    A quarter of a millions worth of tandem would be a nice tandem…

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Seeing as money devalues so rapidly, then why not invest it in something a bit more permanent and stable?

    LIKE A DONKEY SANCTUARY ON THE ISLE OF MULL!!!!!!!! 😮

    Cougar
    Full Member

    Different world, isn’t it. When I die, I’m hoping to have broken even.

    I guess what I’d do in your case is leave some of it to friends. Plenty of mortgages to be paid off, presumably. For the rest, pick a charity.

    project
    Free Member

    It will need to go to probate, so theres some legal costs,and dont forget funeral costs etc.

    Donate it to the Singletrack forum writers guild, thats us, to buy hob nobs and tea.

    psling
    Free Member

    Just waiting for someone to suggest leaving it to a neurological research charity for studies into injuries caused be head impacts. Damn, I just did, didn’t I. How pedictable is that 😉

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    Buy a helmet?

    or, find a small local charity and drop them 10 or 20,000. Big charities would burn that off in no time but to a small organisation it’s fantastic. The difficulty is in doing the research to find someone small and local who you think does good work which is why I suspect the big organisations tend to be on the receiving end of the big legacies so often

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

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    Junkyard – Member

    Why not piss it up the wall enjoying your last days in hedonistic glee.

    Even us would have trouble get thru that much in pure hedonistic glee before we died. Might hasten the end

    chewkw
    Free Member

    Regardless of whether they are relatives etc, if you have not met them in your life then they are practically strangers so why will it to them? They don’t deserve it nor need it especially if they are well off.

    Do something good by willing it to those that really need the money. i.e. those that are kind hearted and those who help others and definitely not to those that just because they are your relatives.

    Help those that deserve it.

    Or you can always assist me in my raise to become Dear Leader with your will.

    🙂

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    On a more serious note its all tied up in property – we can’t really get at it now and we are close to some of the family on both sides can we make a few folk richish out of a bunch of them?

    Elfinsafety
    Free Member

    Even us would have trouble get thru that much in pure hedonistic glee before we died.

    Ooh I dunno; have you seen the price of a pint these days?? 😯

    In seriousness; considering you’re both in good health, then you can realistically expect to live another 30, 40 years or more. How much will £250000 be worth relatively, by then?

    DONKEY SANCTUARY!!!!

    TheSouthernYeti
    Free Member

    A quarter of a millions worth of tandem would be a nice tandem

    You might even be able to get a centuplycle!

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    Legacies are so important to charities unrestricted funding you can use for general running costs is very rare to find. Is there anyone who’s helped you or your close family?

    We’ve just got a legacy from a visually impaired couple who died quite close together and this means we can carry on, even after council funding cuts, to continue to help other people like them in my local area.

    Pick a local charity rather than national or regional if you can as we don’t have the money to employ huge teams of people to market the charity we’re too busy ACTUALLY helping people.

    Keva
    Free Member

    my great grandfather on my mothers side was loaded. He spent the lot on fast living and left nothing to anyone. fair play to him. rock n roll.

    Kev

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    elf – in 30 years it will be worth a lot more – its all property don’t forget. Its more if we die in an accident soonish. Without wills my parents get half and julies nieces get the other half. None of them need it at all

    muppetWrangler
    Free Member

    I wouldn’t automatically leave it to family, and certainly wouldn’t leave anything to family that I’ve rarely seen, why not leave it to either the family members that you think would get the most out of it or to friends. Surely everyone knows a good friend that is great but never seems to get the breaks financially.

    Other than that I would give to charity before distant family.

    chewkw
    Free Member

    TandemJeremy – Member

    … can we make a few folk richish out of a bunch of them?

    Yes, why not as for the rest you can give them say £50 each.

    🙂

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    Legacies are so important to charities unrestricted funding you can use for general running costs is very rare to find

    +1 for that. It’s worth about 10 times it’s value in restricted funding because you can just use it where you like and when you like. gold dust

    muppetWrangler
    Free Member

    Have a clause in your will for a framebuilder to build 10-15 TJ memorial bikes to be distributed to each member of the family.

    Actually I like that idea so much I’m gonna do it.

    EDIT

    Naturally couples could get a tandem.

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    You work in the 3rd sector too Leffeboy?

    😀

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    I am liking the charity ideas – Julie said that as well. Unpopular charities that don’t get much in the way of legacies sounds good

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    TJ – Julie was right unpopular charities i.e. (visually impaired) like mine aren’t ‘sexy’ charities people give to hospices, cancer, armed forces which are all worthy but attract money easily.

    Is there a cycling charity for people knocked off bikes / kids unable to afford bikes / local kids cycling group?

    Junkyard
    Free Member

    Its more if we die in an accident soonish

    gets excited checks e-mail
    Edit I am blind in one eye and ride a bike its a win win win scenario

    chewkw
    Free Member

    TandemJeremy – Member

    I am liking the charity ideas – Julie said that as well. Unpopular charities that don’t get much in the way of legacies sounds good

    Charity is always good but do make sure you are donating to charity that actually help others and not just lining their own pockets.

    🙂

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    Don’t get too excited junkyard – I ain’t deaded yet

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    Chekw its VERY RARE charities are lining their own pockets another urban myth there are some con artists but most of us are working for buttons because we want to make a difference ‘somewhere’ I earn as much as someone full time in a supermarket for doing a senior project managers job…. no-one I know is doing it for the money sweets!! 😀

    leffeboy
    Full Member

    As bagpuss says – there are definitely some folks out there who are making more that you might want out of it but on the other hand it can be difficult to find staff for a bigger organisation unless you can pay something sensible. It’s a tough balance. That’s why local and small is better than the big folks with big marketing budgets to send you mail about legacies. The downside is that you then need to do the legwork of finding them

    (…runs off to start cutting brake cables on tandems…)

    bagpuss72
    Free Member

    *joins leffe*

    I’ll split it with you we can say its a joint bid we’ve put in…. partnership working at its best 😈

    MrNutt
    Free Member

    bugger the lot of them, give the lot to me.

    druidh
    Free Member

    I wouldn’t be assuming that there would be any left after you’ve paid for nursing/care costs.

    clubber
    Free Member

    Imagine you’ve just been given £250k but told that you have to give it all away. What would you do. Job done.

    £250k would fund a lot of helmet research FWIW.

    TandemJeremy
    Free Member

    druidh – its assuming we have gone under a bus next week – this is a rewrite from the wills 20 yrs ago.

    Kevevs
    Free Member

    just give it to someone that cares about the mountains and people, http://www.ogwen-rescue.org.uk/

    NJA
    Full Member

    Normal Disclaimer First – I write wills for a living. Not touting for business just a few thoughts.

    Firstly make sure those close to you are suitably catered for with an amount of money that will make them remember what you did for them without necessarily changing their lives.

    Then pass the remainder into the ‘Tandem Jeremy Charitable Trust’ this means that you don’t have to decide now which charity cops the money, you can set out broad objectives and your Trustees will deal with the distribution after your death. You provide a letter of wishes that gives them guidance on what you want the money to achieve and they use their discretion to achieve this.

    The trustees can also claim gift aid on their distributions (subject to limits) so your money goes a lot further.

    Tandem Jeremy lives on and continues to do good, trustees can make sure the right organisations benefit.

    It is less complex and expensive than you think to put this sort of arrangement into place.

    Nick.

    P.S. In my opinion the Donkey Sanctuary has enough money, give it to some of the mental health charities instead.

    Tiger6791
    Full Member

    Leave it to something you believe in

    http://www.cyclehelmets.org

    not these guys http://www.bhit.org

    cynic-al
    Free Member

    Sounds like you’re doing well, why not work even less hours to spend more time internet-arguing? 😛

    Seriosuly, tough call, I need to sort this myself too. I’d factor in the following:

    Closeness, poverty, effort to maintain contact with you.

    Anyway your legal fees will hoover it all all up 😉

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