Do people really just move across Europe to claim benefits? Really? I think people move for jobs.. so when there aren’t vacancies most of the people would stop coming, surely?

no they’ll come for the living wage which is several times higher than in some countries

the one that simultaneously lives off in work benefits AND steals your job

FIFY

no they’ll come for the living wage which is several times higher than in some countries

And do they then pay tax?

Does their activity generate GDP and hence tax revenue?

It’d be great if someone could work out the net effect on the economy of all these EU migrants, wouldn’t it?

the one that simultaneously lives off in work benefits AND steals your job

FIFY

Maybe our government should stop subsidizing employers, then.

It’d be great if someone could work out the net effect on the economy of all these EU migrants, wouldn’t it?

Maybe we could get some Poles in to do it

And do they then pay tax?

I believe the living wage would essentially attract low/ no tax due to the increases in the tax bands, anyone would game the system to get the ideal position re wages and in work benefits

Does their activity generate GDP and hence tax revenue?

GDP increases don’t correlate to tax revenue increases

It’d be great if someone could work out the net effect on the economy of all these EU migrants, wouldn’t it?

yes, but they would need to assess where marginal costs no longer apply as infrastructure is required. I don’t believe this has been done as it would feed the “numbers” arguments

Maybe our government should stop subsidizing employers, then.

I agree, but the issue is that a massive pull factor is created, do you want to stack shelves for 3x less money in your own country?

yes, but they would need to assess where marginal costs no longer apply as infrastructure is required. I don’t believe this has been done as it would feed the “numbers” arguments

then factor in the impact of not having them in the country.
Then work out how much infrastructure we need to build for the greater number of points based immigrants from non EU countries, and those for the aging population.

Ot do you just want the sums to give you the answer you want?

But how many people would you need to employ to build the extra infrastructure…?

GDP increases don’t correlate to tax revenue increases

Wait, what? Never heard that before? Do you mean they aren’t proportional, or that there’s no relationship?

mainly because the stats don’t cover increasing infrastructure to manage the numbers, as we aren’t building more hospitals, schools, roads, rail etc instead just sweating existing assets it creates the illusion of the marginal costs being more than covered

FACE PALM
You can keep typing things that show you don’t understand what the word NET means, and clutch at whatever straws you wish whilst doing this, but it really serves to only highlight your lack of insight and makes me question why you are so anti immigration when the FACTS refute this utterance

Between 2001 and 2011 recent EEA immigrants contributed 34 per cent more than they took out, a net contribution of £22bn.

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-immigrants-pay/16332

One cannot defeat Farage like views with the facts

Uk nationals contributed 93% FWIW – ie net beneficaries

GDP increases don’t correlate to tax revenue increases

HAHAHAHAHA Best of luck working out why that is wrong and for two different reasons

but they would need to assess where marginal costs no longer apply as infrastructure is required

Red herring argument is red
the figures include costs for education and health care which includes the “infrastructure” costs 🙄

anyone would game the system to get the ideal position re wages and in work benefits

the numbers would be (in the grand scheme of things) teeny.

Slightly picky, but isn’t the 330k figure NET migration?

Yes – and it is net ALL migration.

Net EU migration is around 184,000 (about 0.287% of our population)

Current figures put net non-EU migration at 188,000.

We let more people in through those borders that we do have control of than those that we (supposedly) don’t.