Still no comment on the “not in a police station, non sex dungeon” ?

It’s the only one of your links I clicked on, and it wasn’t even backing up what you claimed.

My comment is clear for all to see…

given all the links provided, strange you should home in on that one.

Also strange how Fiona Woolf and Leon Brittan is headline news today and yet I 1st mentioned it over a month ago.

Hows Tubalcain these days anyhoo? 😉

fair enough, the people have spoken.

I am a freemason been one for years. I also live in a house with a clear triangle motif on the front.

You got me.

given all the links provided, strange you should home in on that one.

And yet somehow I did.

Care to explain how come it doesn’t contain any information to verify the claim you made.

Despite the fact you provided it as evidence to back up your claim.

In fact it basically rubbishes the claim you made, and kind of makes it sound you made up all the stuff about their being a secret Sex Dungeon in a police station.

But that would be so out of character, so I presume it’s just a clerical error. And you will provide all the irrefutable evidence you have shortly.

Hows Tubalcain these days anyhoo?

No doubt some sort of pathetic dig at me, but I really can’t be bothered to look.

This year 2 downing street workers, Patrick Rock (David Camerons deputy director of Policy) and Hans Sebastian Crump (an IT worker within the Cabinet Office) were both charged with child abuse images.

now i’m no expert, but this cover up doesn’t seem to be very good. surely if there was a cover up, this would have been covered up?

Also strange how Fiona Woolf and Leon Brittan is headline news today and yet I 1st mentioned it over a month ago.

Wow.

You truly are an investigative genius.

Either that or you saw the same letter appear on Facebook as I did on 22nd September and then passed it off as your own super duper sleuthing skills.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fiona_woolf_and_her_relationship

Can’t decide which it might be.

i suspect jivehoneyjive is continuing the time-honoured tradition of changing the subject every time anyone tries to get a straight answer, whilst at the same time claiming to have answered the question.

Conspiracy theorists are often more like the politicians they deride than they would care to admit

why would I pursue this with such fervor if I wasn’t certain of my claims.

Could it be you’re trolling?

I am slightly intrigued by your claim that “child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite”. Perhaps I’m none too bright or lack imagination, but I’m struggling to see who this abuse would be controlling and how.

Whatsmore, there was what appears to have been a sex dungeon in a Lambeth Police station:

Cobblers.

The situation reported in the SLP: “a tiny area with a bedding, a manacle and a sleazy red light…the shocking find at the Yard’s Lambeth Support Services Headquarters”.

The situation described in your link: “In November 1997 the South London Press ran a story about a ‘sex chamber’ hidden in the basement of Lambeth Police Station with bedding, a red light, and a manacle.”

The open ended tabloid question based on nothing from your link: “Was Lambeth Police Station being used by the paedophile ring to abuse children and produce child pornography?”

So, in true style, when jivehoneyjive has been credibly linked to cobblers talkers, and has talked cobblers, and has been associated with secret dossiers of cobblers passed between anonymous networks of cobblers talkers, the question remains: is jivehoneyjive a key node in the cobblers conspiracy? I think if you do your own research you will see that there are plenty of reasons why people would not want the truth to come out about this cobblers (and if you don’t see it, you should open ur mind a bit. But hey – I can only ask the questions, you can call me crazy if you want – just carry on taking the red pill, everything will be fine…or will it?

Once again, focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle…

Good news is Fiona Woolf has stepped down and as a result the pressure on the government for transparency increases.

They will be under intensive scrutiny, which is a necessity.

So, moving on, being as this is about David Icke, what does everyone think about MK-ULTRA mind control?

Ties in pretty well with Halloween too!!

jivehoneyjive – Member

Once again, focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle…

Ah, I’ll remember that- next time I say something ridiculous and get pulled up for it, rather than responding to that I’ll just say “you’re focusing on a small part of a far bigger puzzle!”

Good news is Fiona Woolf has stepped down and as a result the pressure on the government for transparency increases.

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don’t have a firm grip on the ‘control structures’ ?

If so you seem to have fallen for it honeyjive, which disappoints me greatly.

I haven’t said anything ridiculous… this is a David Icke thread after all.

And the fact stands that there is several accounts of some very dodgy dealings involving Lambeth Carehomes (much like many others across the country) Politicians and the Police… it’s really not that unreasonable to question just how valid the investigation or freedom of information response (which will be a result of said investigation) is.

Your denial doesn’t stop bad people doing bad things.

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Where is the divide between detectives theories and conspiracy theories?

If anything, it reinforces my theories… why was she assigned in the 1st place?

Amusing but not informative

Its is amazingly poor to posy links that fail to support your own claims

FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me – possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae 😉

KOna – well played

Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread

Which is bad news for your conspiracy theories.

Or is this latest development simply to lull us into thinking that the political and religious elite don’t have a firm grip on the ‘control structures’ ?[quote]If anything, it reinforces my theories… why was she assigned in the 1st place?[/quote]

The perfect conspiracy theory response to an inconvenient fact- just expand the whole thing that little bit wider. Repeat as necessary.

Have a good night ladies, I expect a full and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread

Are you off ? Don’t forget to watch out for the chemtrails and remember not drink any tap water – it’s full of fluoride !

Haven’t read the thread but his son played at the Big Bike Bash a couple of years back before flying off to play the O2. He should be playing next years BBB to*.

*No lizard allowed at the BBB

MK-ULTRA

Is that some sort of household electrical conspiracy?

FWIW i challenged another one for the same but he seems to be more annoyed with neal than me – possibly to hide the scent of the kaseae

I don’t think he’s annoyed with me.

In the mind of the little boy that cried wolf, he thinks he’s beaten my argument by telling me I’m focusing on the wrong thing.

It’s incredible how these conspiracy twonks constantly spew this crap out, and no matter which bit of it you pick apart and show as bullshit, they just tell you that’s the “wrong bit”

And then skip off shouting some random crap about MK Dons or whatever.

Weird, weird, people 🙄

MK = Milton Keynes

Probably

I expect a fnord and thorough disbelief and denial of the hideous truth that is MK-ULTRA when I next visit this thread

based on your track record so far, I expect it’s you that’ll be providing the links that contradict what you’re saying.

jivehoneyjive – well done. Reminds me of an old discussion elsewhere on tinternet about 5yrs ago where some people were saying how disgusting Savile was, and some people were defending him. The shame! JHJ’s detractors should take note.

slowoldman – Member

I am slightly intrigued by your claim that “child abuse is central to the control structures of the political and religious elite”. Perhaps I’m none too bright or lack imagination, but I’m struggling to see who this abuse would be controlling and how.You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke. Also http://www.helpfreetheearth.com/news560_zk.html

Re: MK-Ultra – it’s a conspiracy fact.

The shame! JHJ’s detractors should take note.

But we could all make allegations about a massive list of people and show photo’s of them in the same room as somebody else. There would be a chance that we would get one right in the end, it doesn’t mean that we are detectives or uncovering a grand conspiracy just that with enough guesses you can get it right.

A quick google of MY Ultra shows one thing these days, how hard it is to keep things a secret.

You would have thought that in all the mundane crap that Wikileaks got from Bradly Manning and from all of the Edward Snowdon leaks there would be something to support all of these claims, unless they too are puppets of the lizard people.

6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.

I can understand how very clever makeup might help to hide scales and claws but something at least half your body length surely requires a little more ?

I’m calling bullshit.

^^^^ ignore him he is one of them

JHJ’s detractors should take note

I have taken note that you use emotive arguments to reach non sequiturs and then get excited at your brilliance.

I am sure some people did defend Saville but this fact does not prove Ickes, frankly **** mental/ludicrous, claims.

You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke.

Are you being serious ?

Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a **** spaceship.

You conspiracy loons really do need to find some slightly more credible figure heads if you want anyone at all to take you seriously.

I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.

Why on earth would I read a book by a bloke who thinks we are surrounded by lizard people and that the moon is a **** spaceship.

Clearly you didn’t see that documentary on BBC1 a couple of saturdays ago – the moon is a giant egg containing a dragon lizard. Which then lays another moon-egg when it hatches. Simple stuff for a supposedly intelligent man such as yourself.

Three points on Fiona Woolf:

1. Saying that she is “establishment” because she had dinner with her neighbours a few times is nonsense. I’ve had occasional dinners with many of my friends’ friends but still wouldn’t class them as my friends and the same goes for neighbours.

2. Trotting out photos of her in ceremonial robes in her entirely symolic role as Lord Mayor shows nothing – that office carries no powers and holds little if any influence over anything that matter

3. By all accounts nearly everyone who as worked with and for her holds her in extremely high regard. If a former president of the law society is to have their integrity called into question, and “victims” groups are to have the say over who is, or isn’t qualified to lead the inquiry and / or smearing the person’s integrity in the process, the most likely outcome is that no-one will lead it because of the risk to their own reputation.

I think you need to be a bit strange to think the lord mayor of London is not a member of the establishment- certainly meets them all fairly often if they are not part of it.The role seems pretty much establishment to me tbh

The Lord Mayor is elected each year at Michaelmas ‘Common Hall’, and takes office on the Friday before the second Saturday in November, at ‘The Silent Ceremony’. On the day after taking office, the Lord Mayor’s Show is held; the Lord Mayor, preceded by a procession, travels to the Royal Courts of Justice at the Strand in Westminster to swear allegiance to the Sovereign before the Justices of the High Court.

Its not really the role for a radical outsider now is it?
Look at the list of previous ones for example…assuming you can be bothered reading back to the 14 th century.
I get your broad point but I find it hard to believe you can see the counter point.

I notice that David Icke describes the reptiles as robots but also says the aristocracy needs to interbreed to maintain the genetic characteristics that enables them to be devoid of empathy.

You say that like it is incoherent nonesense……

You say that like it is incoherent nonesense……

Lazarus sounds a rather reptilian-lizardy sort of name, I’ve got my eye on you fella.

You could *gasp* read Children of the Matrix by David Icke

I think I’ll pass thank you.

6079smithw your support for David Icke would sound more convincing if you could explain how exactly our reptilian rulers hide their tails.

Well maybe they are better than the Japanese Kitsune. Shape shifting fox like creatures who sometimes give themselves away by showing their tails or teeth or claws. Of course the Japanese accept them as mythical. Clearly they have grown out of these sort of fairy tales.

I did not know owt about him before this thread, googled him and recognise him from my childhood as a tv presenter. I think based on the very little I know about him his rambling are the fruits of his imagination and wether he believes them or not I do not know.

I might buy one of his books and treat it as fiction and if I am entertained I might read another.

Eric von Daneken when asked if he believed any of the rubbish he wrote used to reply “I’m just off to my bank can I give you a lift in my Rolls” back in the day when a Rolls Royce was a status symbol.
David Ike I suspect is from the same mold.

why would I pursue this with such fervor if I wasn’t certain of my claims.

Because you’re clearly obsessed. And as soon as someone posts up a diagram of a pyramid with the word ‘Illuminati’ at the top I just want to run screaming from the room.
Tell you what, JHJ, try reading Charles Stross’s ‘Laundry’ series of books, about a covert branch of the government which fights incursions by agents of the Elder Gods. Should supply plenty of material for your ongoing research.

Cool, you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though…

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aebmbzU-nKg[/video]

Weird, weird, people

Perhaps not as weird as blokes meeting in secret temples with Lambskin aprons.

Certainly not as weird as people who rape, torture and on occasion murder children, sometimes filming it for the pleasure of others…

Now, back to MK-ULTRA, any of you kids done your homework?

Homework? Whats that all about then. Must be time to GO and do something else, this RIDE seems to be going round in circles. Anyone know anything about BIKES

you seem a bit out of tune with reality to me though

Personally I would breathe a huge sigh of relief to know that I was not seen as sharing your reality

You started off as amusing and now you are just tedious, not funny and repetitive.

Perhaps the long nights are getting to you, do you need a hug?

I rode my bike today, bloody good fun it was too, slipping, sliding, but somehow holding the line

Can’t recall mentioning MK-ULTRA in any other threads, pretty interesting how the CIA worked with Nazi scientists, some even say there is an occult aspect…