love the canti arguments its just about your set up... so being stupid and answer the question.will cantis be less powerfull...maybe if your breaking on mud or ice.On dry tarmac dry pads set up well ...not they will be as good.Do you need more? if your running 42mm tyres and dropping down 2 ft drops on 30% downhills .yes you do but its also not a cross bike and therefore ride a mtb.good lord stw.
Bruce
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CX bikes and canti brakes - would you?
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IME the advocates of discs on road or cx bikes are those who have them...and won't in back.
ADvocates of cantis or vs over discs usually have some investment in saying they ase Ione dontII, why do you need better etc.
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Personally - mini vs over cantis, discs over mini vs.
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Waves at al!
I'm using cantis, calipers and discs - and there are advantages and disadvantages to all 3. In my experience - disc'd road bike for 2 years there's not that much of an advantage over cantilevers and calipers, however I'm not going to stop anyone else having their own likes and dislikes.
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ADvocates of cantis or vs over discs usually have some investment in saying they ase Ione dontII, why do you need better etc
Can you repeat that in English?Posted 8 months ago # -
Got all these brakes on different bikes. Had no problems with any and noticed no particular difference in them. Adapt and survive. Prefer salmon koolstops on tektro 720s for fiddle-free operation, no problem in wet. BB7s scream like banshees in the wet. Good advance warning but is there any way of stopping this?
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I use Cantis on my CX...


Granted, they don't have the same stopping power of my Hope M4s at stopping this #18stoneofidiot..
But, to be fair, half the "fun" of Cyclo Cross is the sheer panic of not being able to stop..
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My Cotic X has discs. Way more powerful than the V's on the Tricross I have. Better. Hmm. A real cross bike doesn't need wonderful brakes. A cross bike used for other things , like my X might, well do so. Maybe we would stop calling cross bikes not used for cross racing, rough stuff bikes instead. :lol:As for the set up thingy, why are cantis hard to set up? You just toe them in a touch as with V's, fiddle with the cable to get the correct start pint as with V's and they go. maybe I just don't get V's having been born in a canti era.
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mattsccm -
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A real cross bike doesn't need wonderful brakes. A cross bike used for other things , like my X might, well do so. Maybe we would stop calling cross bikes not used for cross racing, rough stuff bikes instead.
"Real" cross bike?
I bet about 5% of cross bikes are used for what you so humbly call real cross.
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They stop my tandem in the wet. You won't die.
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I spent enough time fannying around with cantis back when there was nothing better. I don't think there's a force in the world that could get me to go to the dustbin of history and take a set out and fit them to a bike now.
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cynic-al - Member
IME the advocates of discs on road or cx bikes are those who have them...and won't in back.ADvocates of cantis or vs over discs usually have some investment in saying they ase Ione dontII, why do you need better etc
I took discs (BB7) off my cross bike and fitted cantis (TRP EuroX). The main reason was because they look nicer
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Kapow!
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+1 Northwind I never want to go back to Canti days, gorillia boosters, froglegs, proper shimano straddle cable length tool, lots of different blocks, just a flawed design.
Stick some mini Vees on, or normal Vees with Problem Solvers.
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The canti's on my cx have been fine can lock the back will easy enough. Just spend alot of time getting them set up right.
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Real cross.
My point exactly. Cantis work fine for that job(racing around relatively flat, often muddy tracks with few big descents) , in fact given the mud clearance, I would say currently they are the best option.
I was trying to make the point that many people want a CX bike, go on about how certain things work best on CX bikes, get all upset when they are contradicted but don't use the bike for its purpose. I don't use my CX bikes for their purpose either. I moaned last night when I missed a rabbit with my air rifle. The shotgun would have been the right tool for the situation really so moaning wasn't the thing to do.
For other situations other things work best.I like the disc brakes on my Cotic as the bike is used for a multitude of uses. Disc brakes mean that swapping wheels with different tyres is easy without having to stick to the same rims every time. It means that should I crisp a rim when out in the depths of mid Wales on a long rocky green lane I don't have to get the spanners out to have working brakes. The v's on my Tricross stay partly becuase they are there and thus cheap and partly becuase they work well for its use, a mix of forest track and paths 12 months of the yera and I can get pads for 3 quid from many shops.
I think its called horse's for courses.Oh yeah, it might be my technique but am I the only one who finds that dropping wheels out is easier with cantis. V's need to be set close to the rims and when they are released they don't go bacak as far as canti's.
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