taken from the woburn thread….

The problem is MTB'ing is now (almost) mainstream, you only have to look on magazine racks to se how popular it is, 6+ MTB mags in supermarkets, compare that to other sports like surfing/windsurfing/ski/board mags? But we've still nowhere to go an ride. Yes there are always bridleways, but be honest, what would you rather do, ride down the beast (probably one of the Peaks best known tracks) which is about 10ft wide, has 2 corners and takes about 2 minutes at the most if your having a slow day, or mile after mile of singletrack decent at a trail center?

from your description i would take the trail centre

Or a better example, riding in the Chilterns where the singletrack is sparse and genreraly fairly straight or riding at Swinley?

chilterns or swinley, no contest.

Swinley is crap. The singletrack is wrecked. All the Farnborough locals know stuff far better and most don't bother with it any more

riding in the Chilterns where the singletrack is sparse and genreraly fairly straight

really? sparse? it's a wood FFS I can't think of a straight bit anywhere, and there's **** miles and miles of it. has that poster actually ridden there? Agree with Poddy about Swinley, last winter killed it

Sorry Nickc chilterns is rubbish compared to Swinley 😉

SOOB – shudduppppp!

*slap*

Yep, Chilterns definitely rubbish, no singletrack at all. Clearly not the hills you are looking for 8)