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Celebrity news: Crazy Legs narrowly avoids breaking his neck!
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"Why does every thread have to have an argument?"
uh, with me in it, how could there not be ?
This thread doesn't meet the normal criteria, but with that admission I felt it deserved a tag
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This thread doesn't meet the normal criteria, but with that admission I felt it deserved a tag
YawnSo WTF (w=who) is crazy legs?
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So WTF (w=who) is crazy legs?
I got the impression he was an MTB celebrity. Most bikers I encounter seem to know him, or at least of him. But does it matter? it's still a spectacular face plant
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He's in the photo, keep up...
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The whole story:
click pic for more
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Loving all the sympathy he's getting
no need for us all to be miserable
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From the pics I'd say some people need to learn how to fall. Essential skill in MTBing!
For the record I face planted into a tree and walked back to the car park. Walked to the hospital after having a bath and found I had busted my neck. (I'm just 'ard though.)So you do need to stop wasting the air ambulance's time
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For the record I face planted into a tree
isn't that a head butt ?
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Pedantic!
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Chriiiist! Why does every thread have to have an argument?
TJ.
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Glad that you are okay and that it was nothing too serious. It does look like a nasty off and head/neck/C spine injury was quite a possibility. For future reference you should not be sat up, rolled over etc if a neck injury is suspected and the head should be supported.
Mend well and quickly and get back out there soon.
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The first aider prevented anyone from moving him but James insisted on sitting up himself...
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Ah okay, and you cant stop them for sure, been there before. The next best thing then is to have someone sit/kneel behind him just in case he passes out and falls back. Good to see you got him laid out later.
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I know it shouldn't matter but the term "The normal ambulance crew..." is some what irritating, it's a road Ambulance. Oh and that's not a female nurse, can't work out her grade though.
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"The normal ambulance crew..." is some what irritating, it's a road Ambulance.
never heard that term before, you're getting too technical
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Oof - bad one. Healing vibes to you.
Have to say, I wholeheartedly agree with TJ's view on the group's track-record though.
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I wholeheartedly agree with TJ's view on the group's track-record though.
6 calls in 1800-2000 rides is around a 0.3% call out rate...
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he'd have had no injuries at all if he hadn't been wearing a helmet..
....i'm surprised SOMEONE hasn't mentioned this already
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Nice tags. Perhaps the person tagging could actually read what I posted or is that too much to ask?
I did not at any point criticise the handling of this specific incident. I raised a general point about the use of mountain rescue and air ambulances. I also commented that the amount of rescues that the boggtotters seem to need appears excessive so asked if they were calling the emergancy services out when it was not needed.
I repeatedly said that the judgement can only be made on the ground at the time.
However because my view did not meet the consensus on here where people refuse to take responsibility for their actions and rely on others I get absolutly flamed. Its much more fun to flame TJ that to consider any points I might make.
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6 calls in 1800-2000 rides is around a 0.3% call out rate...
I'd multiply that by the average number of riders per group too sfb, very low rate.Edit, TJ you did seem to be very heavy handed in your criticism in your first few posts.
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where people refuse to take responsibility for their actions and rely on others I get absolutly flamed.
wrong 1: James believed he was acting well within his capabilities
wrong 2: it was correct to call 999 in the circumstances
wrong 3: that wasn't a flaming Posted 1 year ago # -
6 calls in 1800-2000 rides is around a 0.3% call out rate...
And you reckon that's acceptable?? Let's say a person rides a bike 200 times a year over 20 years (a conservative estimate for an occasional commuter / weekend warrior) - that's 4k rides. At your attrition rate that would be 12 airlifts -for 1 person!
Everyone gets a free pass once - and that should be more than enough for most to reconsider their notions of personal responsibility while away from outside help. I know you ride as a group but, if anything, surely that should decrease the need for outside rescue?
Once is mortifying but probably just bad luck. Twice is careless, thrice is negligent - beyond that starts to sound disgraceful.
{edit} oh aye, good photo though {/edit}
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beyond that starts to sound disgraceful
I'm content with that description and I'm not going to change my behaviour or leadership as a result
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LuckyJim
I don't think your calculation is fair. A person is not going to make 200 rides into the wilderness where only a helicopter would reach. If they are commuting by bike, if they get hit by a car they will need an ambulance as I assume most commuters do so on roads. Also, you will have other groups who have never had to call out an air ambulance, just the law of averages. I have been on a Boggies ride and will happily do so again, except my leg is a bit broekd right now (and no, I didnt call an air ambulance
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Luckyjim usual road commutes aren't counted cos those would just be road ambulance jobs (most riders dont ride to work xc). So lets generously say two xc rides a week average, you're closer to boggies numbers in 20years and your still only calculating for 1 person. AFAIK boggies generally go out in fairly large groups so the callout rate is way down on 0.3%.
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hardly a massive call out rate IMHO especially when you consider numbers, newbiness and the dangers of footpath riding.
Some people will do field first aid some will just call 999 what is the point arguing about this we all do what we think is best at the time no one is calling air ambulance for a scuffed knee are they?
FFS we ride MTB we have accidents we call for help they turn up we are grateful.Posted 1 year ago # -
I visit A&E at least once a year as a result of MTB crashes but have never been in an ambulance since I was 8 and had polio...
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6 calls in 1800-2000 rides is around a 0.3% call out rate
Considering the number of people who appear to turn out on the average Boggies ride, that would be more like 0.01% *per rider*.
And as the majority of MRT callouts in the Lakes are for casual walkers with sprained ankles / heart attacks / lost when it unexpectedly goes dark at night, at least Simon's lot are doing something different to earn the attention
Its much more fun to flame TJ that to consider any points I might make.
Indeed. Maybe if you were less gratingly sanctimonious all the time?
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been in an ambulance since I was 8 and had polio...
MTFU!Posted 1 year ago # -
never heard that term before, you're getting too technical
Ah! Sorry.
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Extreme sports eh? Phew.
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Extreme sports eh? Phew.
extremely silly
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cant believe this is still going on, jeez!
awesome pic by the way!
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