James is a rubbish rider and should not be allowed near rocks.
That's not what he tells me :o)
Barnes, you ave just destroyed our pub quiz team by allowing him to crash in such a manner and rendering him "hors service" for a few weeks.
as far as I could tell his memory wasn't affected, so he'll be just as rubbish at quizzes as he was before 
As it happens I was idly eating my lunch and just grabbed the camera as I saw him approaching the drop.
HeathenWoods - Member......... the way you spluttered outrage like an apoplectic colonial colonel did come across as pretty heavy handed!
Fair enough - not what was intended. Apologies for that
TJ - just for info - i'm not a doctor neither was anyone else at the scene when i broke my humerus(unknown to anyone that it was broken in 5 places), i felt i could have walked out however both the MRT doctor and the consultant explained that it i had done i would have further damaged the arm and would have required surgery, immobilising the injury and keeping it still was the best thing. i apologised to the MRT who decided to stretcher me out as they decided evacuation by landrover would be too painful. In this case staying where i was and calling the emergency services has saved myself considerable pain and damage and saved the NHS a considerable amount of money.
I think TJ deserves credit for out-smugging and out-grumping me - quite an achievement! I nominate him for an award in recognition.
appear on the surface
There's your error TJ, you didn't bother to look deep enough and passed judgement. Very mature and responsible.
What happens is the air ambulance is really needed someone while you tie it up?
Triage applies here, so if something more serious comes up they dump you.
What happens if there is no mobile signal? What happens if the MR team are out on another call?
Then they will have to deal with it on the mountain.
I have a friend in the Dartmoor Rescue here in Devon, granted its not like the big hills elsewhere but Dartmoor can be a forbidding place. I've just come off the phone with him and he said they love it when people hurt themselves so that they can put into practise everything they train for.
You guys should remember Tony Bullimore - lost in his overturned boat in the southern ocean and rescued by the Australian Navy. Some of the killjoy Aussie politicians (analogy TJ and Obi Twa) started moaning that he should pay for his own rescue (millions of ASD) until the Navy chief came out and said, nope the fuel and manpower was already paid for, we were just steaming off in a different direction before and rescuing this guy was an excellent training exercise for my boys.
My fundamental point is still that TJ is a twonk, its like some kind of pathetic existential angst he has to make big important points about stuff that does not even matter.
We have no serious things to worry about in this country, and are very lucky to have a beautiful environment to go and dick about in, and even more lucky that other people like to rescue us when we mess up.
Ta SFB
I've just come off the phone with him and he said they love it when people hurt themselves so that they can put into practise everything they train for.
yes, they've said similar things to me. It's not done out of altruism but because it's great fun
Toys - whats that wooshing noise? You missing the point again.
Nice of you to make personal attacks when you clearly don't understands the issues "you have a friend in dartmoor mountain rescue?" Wow.
I think it was the sound of your handbag passing my ear. You'll have to try harder than that TJ. I'm not as emotionally retarded as you.
Good effort. I got 24 stitches in my face once after a bike related crash so I can feel your pain. Can't wait until someone comes up with a really good post about innovative ways to park your bike.
Nice of you to make personal attacks
is that what it was ? I had assumed you took on the Col. Snotty persona for comic effect! TJ, you're very apt to complain about these attacks from all and sundry, to the extent that I think "The lady doth protest too much". If we're so unremittingly horrid to you perhaps you should dispense your wisdom where it receives the reverence you feel it deserves ? I get a lot of stick too, but I never take it seriously
I think it was the sound of your handbag passing my ear.
brilliant rejoinder :o) [actually LOLing]
Blimey James, glad you're alright.
More importantly how's the bike?
Remember 2 things - 'chicks dig scars' and you should have 'PUT YOUR SADDLE DOWN' (an in joke btw).
Come round for tea later if you're feeling up to it.
Bunnyhop x
I forgot mention that, as he lay bleeding copiously, he several times insisted on knowing how his bike was, so Callum picked it up and checked brakes, wheels and gears etc to confirm everything was working properly. It probably had a soft landing on top of him :o) Later Fay did mischievously asked if we could get some scratch stickers to put on it :o)
Nice one James! heal soon.
Great pics SFB!
I've not ridden with the bogtrotters but the club has good local knowledge and it simply must be safer to ride with them than someone heading out into the unknown alone.
Its not possible to measure how many people riding with the bogtrotters or similar groups have been prevented from getting themselves in trouble by going it alone. I imagine SFB probably has to put quite a lot of effort into organising rides for people different abilities, it must be a thankless task at times, and critising him for having to call 999 on occaisions seems a bit of a cheap shot.
Ouch!!
Cracking pic, healing vibes mate.
it must be a thankless task at times
I don't require thanks, the grins on people' faces (even experienced riders) are more than enough for me
I make no apology for calling 999 and would do it again in similar circumstances. Also I wouldn't seek to prevent riders from trying the jumps, having seen them successfully taken frequently before. We all make mistakes, and my leadership can be quite negligent at times, but I hope I learn from experience, and most of our rides pass off with no more than an occasional harmless tumble.
"Fizzer - I wasn't there so I cannot say what I would have done"
but you did anyway
"Possible neck injury then 999 perhaps best"
as first aider that is exactly what I did
Here we go again - yes, I should have jumped to my feet and walked out, how irresponsible of me. 
Trust me, that was my option too but, in spite of trying that, I was unable to do so.
No-one there requested the air ambulance (certainly not me!), the OPERATOR sent that as soon as "head/neck injury, facial bleeding" was heard. It was in the area anyway, it got there within 5 minutes.
I wasn't riding anything I haven't done before from UK to Alps/Pyrenees and Utah, I don't alter my "riding style" depending on where I am. On the day, my judgment/timing was wrong - it's just one of those things albeit slightly more serious than most accidents of that nature where everyone claps and laughs, the rider dusts themselves down and carries on.
Fortunately, I was with a good group of people rather than a bunch of keyboard warriors who all know better in spite of being hundreds of miles away...
I think that photo is karma for that one you got of me doing the "glentress superman" 5 years ago.
hey James - hope you heal soon - at least you should be out riding soon unlike me 
Great thread, could have been a page shorter without the sh1te in the middle though!
It ain't just his legs that are Crazy!
Hope you're riding again soon.
Ah well Crazy Legs - it's good that you are OK to be back here typing so that's good news. At least your spill wasn't half as bad as Robert Green's
Green's spill would have been fatal for some nationalities!!
Green's spill would have been fatal for some nationalities!!
are some peoples more fragile ?
**** me there's some utter drivel been added on here.
Hope your not too sore and achy today James.
Glad to hear you're okay James, hope you're healed up and back out soon.
Iain
get well soon fella
just to add another slant to the arguing about calling for help. i crashed in scotland and walked down back to my car felt not too bad then as if by magic i was in a bed on an intensive care ward waiting for an mri head scan ;-( so you never know what you might have wrong with you. im trained well in first aid too but i couldnt see it in myself
Yeah, I once fell off my Suzuki on diesel on a roundabout. I drove home, walked into the house and passed out in the hallway...
One should not be made to feel guilty for calling the emergency services especially when the mechanism of injury can indicate possible severe injuries.
Glad the fella is okay
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Chriiiist! Why does every thread have to have an argument?
Great pic(s) and glad CL is more or less ok That could've been really nasty.
Why does every thread have to have an argument?
uh, with me in it, how could there not be ?
I don't think it's you SFB.
I don't think it's you SFB
no, but I'm involved
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