For unintentional comedy value, at least. Apparently his theme will be… Cameron to paint Tories as party of compassion 😆

David Cameron will seek to prevent Ed Miliband’s “one nation” Labour driving him from the common ground of British politics on Wednesday, asserting that his brand of compassionate Conservatism is not just for the strong, but also the best way to help the poor, the weak and the vulnerable.

Yeah Dave… the poor, the weak and the vulnerable are all singing your praises at the moment

Shall we start putting some bullshit bingo cards together for buzzwords he’ll go for? I’ll start with what we definitely won’t be hearing:

“We’re all in this together”.

and any mention of…

He’ll tell it how it is….unlike that ridiculous Milliband Character who managed to say ‘One Nation’ 376 times in his speech (well, almost!) but failed to mention the state of the economy (that he helped create) even once!

Anyway, Binners, shouldn’t you be down the social collecting your Housing benefit before it all dries up?

He’ll tell it how it is

Can we expect an analysis of why the deficit he claimed to reduce with all these cuts, goes through the roof? I’ll look forward to that.

Anyway, Binners, shouldn’t you be down the social collecting your Housing benefit before it all dries up?

No. What makes you think I’m on housing benefit. I live in a bin

He’ll tell it how it is….

he is going to admit his father made his milions from tax avoidance schemes, that he has nothing but contempt for the plebs as he is here to serve the interests of the rich and the powerful and he is laughing at you all as he lies and spins to you.
I shall tune in then

I am disaapointed CMD is not a one nation Tory tbh I had hoped his experience with his son [ tragic though it was] would have made him realise we all need the state and we all need help sometimes even millionairre bullingdon boys.
I dont understand how they get less well of people[ about 90% of us I assume] to vote for them it is like getting turkeys to vote for christmas

he/his PR people have just tweeted;

I’m levelling with the British people in my speech at 11.30. It’s sink or swim, do or decline. How we’ll ensure Britain wins the Global Race

I had to check it wasn’t from a parody account.

If that sets the tone of the language for what we’re about to hear, its going to be more wince-inducing than usual. Even by his cringe-worthy standards

Levelling with us? Now listen here, you oiks!!!…. 😆

Now listen here, you oiks!!!

I thought ‘plebs’ was the phrase du jour for Tory ministers?

Osbourne seems to have picked ‘sink’ out of the available choices – it’ll be interestign if Cameron agrees.

What is this ‘global race’ we’re involved in? A race to the bottom?

We’re competing with Greece and Spain for the biggest deficit. George Osbourne’s like the Usain Bolt of ballooning debt

Levelling you say….?

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The speech will not have any answers for the simple reason that he doesn’t have them. Nor do the rest of the economic and political elites that dominate current world events. History tells them what not to do, but not what to do to achieve fiscal consolidation and growth when everyone is deleveraging. The best he could say is, “sorry everyone, but this is going to be a very long, drawn out process and we are all (for comic/ironic effect) going to have to keep suffering for many years.” But I doubt the speech writers have included that particular sentance.

So if Miliband’s tag line was One Nation, can we have predictions for Cameron’s?

“F-M! This is a mess.” is apparently only 500-1

“Interest rates will be kept below inflation for the next decade. So savers out there – you’re ********* too.” 300-1

What is this ‘global race’ we’re involved in? A race to the bottom?

Yup, a race to have the worst employment conditions, the biggest gap between rich and poor, and the most horrifically awful privatised public services. They’re doing pretty well so far.

I reckon borris snuck in last night and fiddled with daves powerpoint

he slipped in some pictures from the bullingdon days- daves famous victory at the inter dorm auto-fellation contest

“Yup, a race to have the worst employment conditions”

Compaired to whom ?

“Yup, a race to have the worst employment conditions”

Compaired to whom ?

Well currently places like India and China are massively winning on the ‘virtual slave labour’ front – our lack of similar conditions is really holding our economy back. Luckily Adrian Beecroft has a plan to sort all that out though.

Grum – do you not think that Ro5ey might have been asking a serious question?

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Grum – do you not think that Ro5ey might have been asking a serious question?

Definitely in the wrong place for that. 😉

Relax folks! He’s “saving our United Kingdom”.

You do this by hosting a sports day that went quite well. And that success demonstrates the Big Society in action. Apparently 🙄

Funny that BBC Breakfast did a feature yesterday on all the Spanish over here trying to get jobs because there’s actually a chance of that, as opposed to their homeland.(where there are none!)

Its all well and good throwing the class divide into it……but of no use whatsoever! You’re just mud slinging.

Facts are facts…we are deep in debt, our budget deficit is worse than horrendous, so difficult decisions have to be made. If you drive away the wealth creators, they will go somewhere else to open new businesses and create employment opportunities, thus denying us any hope of a recovery.

Get over it…..he’s love to splash the cash, but the two Ed’s have already spent it!

Grum – do you not think that Ro5ey might have been asking a serious question?

I dunno, was there something you thought wasn’t serious about my answer?

Facts are facts…we are deep in debt, our budget deficit is worse than horrendous

Indeed. And its continuing to get way way worse under the economic policy of these muppets!!! Its sky-rocketing. There is no plan B though. 🙄

If you drive away the wealth creators, they will go somewhere else to open new businesses and create employment opportunities, thus denying us any hope of a recovery.

Wahaaaaaay. Genius! You are a lobbyist for the banking industry and I claim my pieces of silver 😆

How do you tell the difference between a wealth creator and an asset stripper?

(I’m thinking of the punchline to that)

If you drive away the wealth creators, they will go somewhere else to open new businesses and create employment opportunities, thus denying us any hope of a recovery.

You mean people like Adrian Beecroft? He’s certainly created a lot of wealth for himself.

Yell

Bought by Apax and Hicks Muse Tate & Frust in a £2.1bn buyout from BT and floated on the London Stock Exchange (at the second attempt) at 285p a share in 2003. Proceeds of the float paid off only part of the debt mountain incurred in the buyout and the company has struggled under it ever since. Thousands of jobs have been cut over the past decade.

After one of the silliest rebranding plans yet seen – in future it will boast the meaningless moniker of Hibu (pronounced high-boo), Numis, the City broker, yesterday announced a price target for the shares of 1p.

Somerfield

Apax was part of a consortium of private equity providers that acquired the struggling supermarkets group in 2005. The results were brutal. Several thousand Jobs were axed and so were wages. What was left of the company was eventually sold on to the Co-operative in 2008. Unions, and the remaining workers, breathed a sigh of relief.

Emap

Apax helped Guardian Media Group buy Emap’s trade magazine and events businesses in 2008. The deal saw GMG incorporating a new company in the tax haven of the Cayman Islands and integrating it with an existing network of Cayman companies set up at the same time by Apax, which has a number of offshore vehicles on the island.

Wonga.com

Wonga isn’t laying staff off. Quite the reverse. The payday loans company, backed by Beecroft’s new outfit, Dawn Capital, has been a stunning success thanks to the ruinous interest rates it charges borrowers, which can top 4,000 per cent a year.

What a shame it would be if he fecked off abroad somewhere.

How do you tell the difference between a wealth creator and an asset stripper?

is it something to do with trial ordeal ..please let it be that

Every time these idiots open their mouths about the ‘current situation’ it gets worse.

Out here in struggling business world, since the end of the Olympics and during the period when the politico’s and the newshounds were focussed elsewhere, things began to pick up a bit, without their negative scaremongering and the media take on it, people began to pick up on their lives, try and carry on, buy and sell stuff, move house do all the stuff necessary for the economy to function after the worse period I’ve known in thirty years in business, countless recessions and three day weeks.

An out of touch expenses fiddler telling us it’s going to get worse helps no-one.

They need to just get on with it, we don’t need to hear about what they might or might not do, just do it and stfu and let’s try and get on with our lives sifting through the wreckage of the economy to try and earn enough money to pay the tax necessary to keep the bastards in expenses.

Bought by Apax and Hicks Muse Tate & Frust in a £2.1bn buyout from BT and floated on the London Stock Exchange (at the second attempt) at 285p a share in 2003. Proceeds of the float paid off only part of the debt mountain incurred in the buyout and the company has struggled under it ever since. Thousands of jobs have been cut over the past decade.

If you want to start throwing in names you know nothing about other than headlines such as these, feel free……but it doesn’t make you look intelligent, if that was what you were hoping?

Taking the first example, you are talking about a company that made plans on the back of previous success, however, with the ever changing nature of the online advertising business leaving them up shit creek without a paddle, their demise was pretty obvious to any one in the know.

You’ll always get people bogging it up in the name of greed, that is human nature…. the point is, we need people encouraged to start businesses so they can employ people. These people need some encouragement, so that they know that if they can make a success of it, they won’t be hammered as a result.

Nah, I’ve got something far more important/interesting to do, like digging the black crud out of the corners of my big toenails.

Facts are facts…we are deep in debt, our budget deficit is worse than horrendous

Indeed. And its continuing to get way way worse under the economic policy of these muppets!!! Its sky-rocketing. There is no plan B though.

There is no plan B! We’re in the sh1t!! Spending more money puts us deeper in it.

As for statements like Ed Ball’s using the proceeds of the 4G launch to build homes….well that money is already spent and as he wouldn’t be able to get to that money anyway, as it would be long gone by the time he had a chance to get into power. So labour don’t have a plan B either!

These people need some encouragement, so that they know that if they can make a success of it, they won’t be hammered as a result.

Another tax cut, like the one they got in the last budget perhaps?

I’m changing my initial guess, You’re not a banking lobbyist after all, you’re a prospective Tory candidate, practising repeating the same tired lines endlessly, and I claim my right to be called a pleb 😆

You’ll always get people bogging it up in the name of greed

And now we have a government that positively encourages it, and gets in a specialist in it to help write legislation.

okay smart arse……whats your plan b?

Lets hear something positive from you for a change.

The government doesn’t have any money, so they cut capital funding, so more people are put out of work, so the welfare bill goes up and tax receipts go down, so benefits are cut, so destitution increases.

It’s amazing that plan A isn’t working.

okay smart arse……whats your plan b?

Personal insults, nice.

Well, for starters I wouldn’t have introduced tax cuts for the rich, I would introduce a Tobin tax, I would put more funding into the people tackling tax evasion (which has been proven to get back more than it costs) rather than cutting it, I would put proper funding into closing tax avoidance loopholes.

These people need some encouragement, so that they know that if they can make a success of it, they won’t be hammered as a result.

People like JK Rowling or Mark Haddon? Not everyone is greedy.

“I’m a wealthy person. Austerity measures introduced by the coalition have caused real suffering to many people, but my comfortable life hasn’t changed in the slightest.

“Why have I, and people like me, been asked to contribute nothing?”
In an interview with a Sunday newspaper, Mr Haddon said: “I should be paying more tax.”

He said his letter was partly inspired by Warren Buffett, the billionaire American investor, who told the US government he should pay more tax after discovering that his cleaner was on a higher tax rate than he was.

“I don’t see many other people saying that,” Mr Haddon added. “There seem to be more Bob Diamonds than Warren Buffetts,” he said referring to the former chief executive of Barclay’s Bank.

Mr Haddon said he annoyed his accountant by insisting on paying all of the tax that is “due” in contrast with the comedian Jimmy Carr, who hit the headlines for using a tax avoidance scheme.

“I’m not asking just an economic question but a moral one, too,” he added. “Many people have pointed out that if everybody paid taxes properly we wouldn’t have an austerity problem at all.”

I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.

A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug

Well basically our economy needs reforming. The economic model these idiots are following is utterly discredited and bankrupt. The causes of our economic turmoil are all still in place and have been, if anything reinforced.

I know…. Shall we print a few more squillion pound and give it to our mates in the city? That’ll work won’t it? Its gone so well with getting capital to business and promoting growth.

You said yourself

we need people encouraged to start businesses so they can employ people

Well here’s the news… nobody can start any businesses, or expand existing ones, because the banks that unbelievably, we pretty much own, have pocketed all the billions we’ve given them, and are refusing to lend to any enterprise. And your beloved Tories think that a perfectly acceptable state of affairs!!!

Shall we do anything to promote jobs and growth? No we’ll leave that to ‘the market’, as thats been going really well so far too

Its not just about funds, or lack of. Its about using this as an opportunity to change the balance of our economy for the future

If it was up to me I’d listen more to people like Will Hutton and try a new direction, rather than constantly reverting back to Milton Friedman’s legacy which has got us right where we are now

I don’t have any confidence in the Labour party either, but these lot are just bloody myopic, and totally in hock to the City, to the complete determent to every other section of society

Binners – be careful what you wish for. A nice link to Will Hutton. And what is one of the policies that he is looking to promote (from the article)? Loan securitisation. Interesting that this is the same as Vince Cable. So the radical new blue print for transforming finance is to encourage a concept that was at the heart of the crisis. Truly, truly radical!!

Looks like you’re following in CMD’s footsteps Binners.

“In May 2010, Hutton was appointed to lead an inquiry into cutting top public sector pay by Prime Minister David Cameron”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Hutton

well nothing new there…..and sorry to offend you Grum with such an offensive insult, you’d better run off to the mods!

Seems your plan b binners, offers a few simplistic ideas that CMD would very much like to utilise. Certainly the tax avoidance has been stepped up considerably and also the try as they might, they cannot force the banks to start lending.

Its all well and good having a plan b, but I was asking for one that was achievable!

1306: Labour’s shadow Cabinet Office minister, Michael Dugher says: “This was a defensive speech, from an out of touch, clearly rattled leader, who cannot be the one nation prime minister we need.”

So we have to live with “one nation’ now up until the next election. 🙁

Can anyone define what this actually means – it would be very helpful as it clearly is going to dominate soundbites in the foreseeable future?

I haven’t really listened much to Ed’s speech but I assume it’s supposed to meant that they are a party which represents everyone, not just the privileged.

Unless it’s a reference to this.

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Certainly the tax avoidance has been stepped up considerably

Has it? I have heard nothing but rhetoric, no actual plans to do anything real.