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  • Border terriers
  • iolo
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    I’m baby sitting the stepsons dog so decided to take her for a quick wee in one of the nearby do parks. Don’t worry we’ll go to the Vienna woods later.
    There must be around 15 dogs here of various shapes and sizes mainly mongrels.
    There’s one bloody dog here barking and biting and starting fights. It doesn’t care who it fights with.
    I asked its elderly owner if it’s always like this. Her answer was “they all are. Isn’t he sweet?” To which I replied “no not really”
    I know there is big STW love for them. Are they all like this?

    surfer
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    You wont get much support on here but IMO I have met as many aggressive ones as non aggressive.

    Stoner
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    I’ve waited for the nearly 2 yrs to get the “right” one. I wanted one from a friend’s breeding line with a smidge of Lakeland terrier in. Ive yet to meet a “bad” border, but I’m picky about the stock.

    No name as yet, but she (on right) will be ours at around 12-14wks. Can’t wait.

    jambalaya
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    No. Badly trained dog, clueless owner. I am definitely of the view that it’s the owners fault not the dog.

    andyrm
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    We have a Patterdale pup (boy) – while he’s still a bit boisterous at 9 months, and very playful with other dogs, I wouldn’t describe him as aggressive. We have several friends with Borders of similar age and theirs are all much the same – playful, active and a bit cheeky, but not aggressive. Sounds like stupid owners.

    HindlePie
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    Ours is a lover not a fighter.

    tonyg2003
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    We had our 2 previous borders for 16yrs and have a 4 month old pup. Good socialisation (he’s at dog day care 1.5 days per week) and training is essential for all terriers. Without it they can become aggressive, dominant (to owner) and territorial (pardon the pun!). It sounds like you met a poorly trained one. As normal in these situations (but not always) look to the owner not the dog.

    prezet
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    Nope, my BT is as passive as they come. She got badly bit last year by an unmuzzled greyhound – almost punctured both her lungs and caused serious internal damage. But that hasn’t put her off going to say hello to other dogs. Although she does stay clear of greyhounds now.

    hora
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    Ours is a lover not a fighter.

    hora junior is scared of dogs. Screams/freaks out with next doors 3month old puppy, when fraser ^ came into our house though hora junior couldn’t leave him alone :mrgreen:

    tuffty
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    On our 3rd Border here and would agree with the comments about badly trained owners. None of ours have been aggressive to other dogs although one did become protective of our kids when they arrived on the scene. If they do get in a fight they are hard as, and wont give in in a hurry. Love ’em 😀

    HindlePie
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    Our has been attacked twice by Pitbull type dogs needing surgery both times. He steers clear of these now and is even wary of most big dogs, but absolutely loves people and kids – they’re the easiest to pinch food from.

    mikemorini
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    Never had a Border, but they’re a popular dog round my area. Not met an agressive one yet.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Shocked to hear of a greyhound attacking another dog as they are about the least aggressive dog you will find.

    hora
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    Twice?

    How come my dog would attack a pitbull but when yours growled at mine he backed down. Nothing as weird as dogs..

    Thrustyjust
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    Ours is a border cross and as soft as they come. She was pulled around by a friends 3 yr old recently and she just got up and walked away. First dog to us and a great animal. We did spend ( well wife and daughter must take the credit really) from her being a pup to guide her with obedience and that makes a huge difference to a dog. Agree totally on the majority of cases of owners being poor and its like anything , the more you put in, the more you get out.
    Met a Border male on a towpath the other day. Put my hand down, so he could smell our dog and got very aggressive. Owners just laughed and called him silly 🙄 Would have another in a shot, love ’em.

    Pigface
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    Met about 3 and they were all stroppy horrid things, about 3 months ago a mates sister turned up with a border pup that was ace so I guess it takes all sorts.

    Shocked to hear of a greyhound attacking another dog as they are about the least aggressive dog you will find.

    At my old vets in Newport (Summerhill) Greyhounds were the only dogs that had to be muzzled while in the waiting room.

    prezet
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    Shocked to hear of a greyhound attacking another dog as they are about the least aggressive dog you will find.

    Not this one. I’m fairly certain it was an ex-racing rescue dog due to it’s size and muscular definition. It was so strong it dragged the lady owner to the floor as it tore into my dog.

    I had to grab it by the throat and drag it off. I was pretty close to doing it some serious harm – but had to think it was a result of it’s owner/breeding.

    The owner refused to admit that it should be muzzled.

    porter_jamie
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    ime, they come in two different flavours, one which wants to kill everything, and the other which is completely stupid. i have yet to see one which will respond to the usual sit/stay commands and so on but that might be a reflection on the owners rather than the dog. But in the case of a particularly violent one i know, i am pretty sure it is the dog

    PePPeR
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    I had a border bitch as my last dog, never again! Most miserable thing with other dogs I’ve ever known!

    We got her as a re home from my vet who I knew. She had already been re homed once at 12 weeks old as she was too aggressive with the other puppy from the litter that they took.

    Give me a nutty spaniel any day of the week.

    surfer
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    Shocked to hear of a greyhound attacking another dog as they are about the least aggressive dog you will find.

    You shouldnt forget what they are bred for and what they are still actively encouraged to do. I have a Lakeland terrier who is quite soft and easy going with other dogs. She was playing with a large GH when it began trying to pin her down quite forcibly and became quite aggressive. My Lakeland as daft as she is remembered she is a terrier for a few seconds and normal order was restored 😀

    anagallis_arvensis
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    All greyhounds are ex racers apart from maybe a few irish coursing bred ones they are bloody expensive. Greyhounds are docile and timid on the whole. Unless your a rabbit or a deer of course.
    Are you sure it wasnt a bull greyhound lurcher, big, powerful and unpredictable around other dogs.
    So your dog ran up to another on lead dog and got bitten……?

    prezet
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    So your dog ran up to another on lead dog and got bitten

    No actually – before you get on your moral high horse. My dog sat well out of the way of the other dog as it and it’s owner passed. The greyhound lunged at my dog (pulling the owner to the ground) bit my dog on the face. To which she rolled on her back in submission, at which point the greyhound clamped its jaws around her chest and shook her like a rabbit.

    I had my 2 year old daughter with me – and she got to witness the whole thing. I then had to carry my dog back to car (2 miles away) while she was bleeding heavily.

    But I guess in the tone of your response somehow you’re going to imply that somehow all that was my fault because my dog is well behaved enough to be able to walk off the lead.

    Drac
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    Had borders since I was about 6 or 7. First one we had was straight off working stock most were then as they weren’t very popular, she could be aggressive to other dogs usually the bigger ones but most of the time she was fine. The second one was much softer but at times would pick a random fight with again big dogs. My current one is very soft wants to be friends with every dog he meets, however if they go to attack him then he wants to finish it.

    Between my having these my parents have had 2 others one a male who was very placid but again would defend himself, they’re current was a rescue dog that had been badly treat she can be temperamental. So pretty much like most other dogs, they are fearless though and determined so don’t give up on a fight easily.

    There’s bloody hundreds of them these days a very popular pet, mostly because they’re are very good with people and kids also because no they’re not all aggressive.

    AdamW
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    Strangely enough today we had an incident.

    Our dog – border collie, on a lead.
    Little Old Lady has microterrier off a lead – runs at my dog snapping and snarling. Our dog barks back. LoL screaming about our dog. Its all our fault of course 😕

    Afterwards LoL is praising the dog. It’s being trained that if it fights it’s going to get rewarded. Sounds like a stupid old lady to me.

    Like my mother – has a standard dachshund that was never socialised. Now *very* territorial and bites everyone apart from her. Nasty little thing but it’s her fault. She should stop making it cheese sandwiches for a start. 😯

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Sounds horrible Prezet still reckon it wasnt a greyhound though. I have never seen one behave as you report. Most dont shake rabbits either, infact I’ve seen one catch a squirrel, not shake it and get mauled itself needing stitches itself. It could well have been a greyhound but its not usual behaviour.

    Pigface… did that vets ever have rabbits or cats come in

    Thrustyjust
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    Took my nans Jack Russell for a walk. Heard a commotion and this woman with a greyhound was being dragged up the road. The dog had seen our JRT and then it had him in his mouth trying to kill it. We could prise the jaws apart, the woman was bleeding from her knees and elbows and at that point had no idea on how strong her dog was. It had a leather strap round the neck, which would never stop the dog from pulling. In the end, I kicked it in the bollocks and it yelped and let go of nans poor dog. He had deep cuts to the neck and bleeding. He wisely ran under the car and the greyhound couldn’t get him, as was trying. Woman hopefully from that day realised how stupid she was. Nans dog was uneasy near large dogs after that. Makes me worry about Rosie being near larger dogs, which she prefers rather than snappy little things.

    ohnohesback
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    If you want a dog like that to let go, you have to squeeze hard on its windpipe.

    King-ocelot
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    There’s lots round here, they all seem playful dogs. There’s a few really aggressive dogs I see often (not borders) but I blame the owners not the dog. I like borders, if I was to get another dog I would look at one but I would prob just get a rescue dog.

    2unfit2ride
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    Nice to see people saying that all boarders are not born equal, I have been brought up with dogs & owned a few, my first boarder was/is ace & she convinced me to get another, this **** of a dog is from working stock & no amount of training makes him do as it’s told if it sees something he wants to chase/eat/kill/fight/lick, but he does eventually come back & roll over & grin at me.
    As an aside my parents & grandparents bred & raced greyhounds & would subsequently keep them as pets, they never went anywhere outside of the property without being muzzled for a good reason.

    codybrennan
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    IMHO, every BT I’ve met has been a total sweetheart. But then, I don’t associate with nutcase/clueless owners 🙂

    In fact, I wish I wasn’t allergic to dogs, and then I’d get one.

    rone
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    Have two. Both soft one a bit miserable and one very social and loves other dogs. Neither aggressive to other dogs but would attack rabbits etc.

    Think it’s down to their breeding history and ownership.

    mitsumonkey
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    I’ve seen greyhounds attack other dogs, a couple tried to kill my parents cocker spaniel last year.
    They are usually rehomed ex racers, having been kept outside in kennels for most of their lives with little interaction from any other breed of dog. Also don’t forget they are sight hounds I.e. hunting dogs originally bred to hunt and kill.
    I’m not against people rehoming or keeping the breed. But they aren’t for everyone.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Golden Retrievers, Labradors Retrievers, Bernese Mountain Dogs, Brittany Spaniels, Greyhounds and Whippets were the least aggressive toward both humans and dogs.

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0168159108001147

    twinw4ll
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    Met with an aggressive Border Terrier yesterday morning, our Miniature Schnauzer sent im packing.

    MrsToast
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    The owner refused to admit that it should be muzzled.

    When we were looking for a dog at the Dogs Trust, we looked at a greyhound. They told us that all greyhounds should be muzzled in public, as the instinct to hunt and kill smaller animals could be high – killing cats in particular. A former colleague posted earlier this week about how he’d just witnessed a squirrel massacre by a greyhound in a park, with horrified parents and children looking on (apparently the greyhound looked quite pleased with itself as it trotted along with a bushy tail sticking out of its mouth!).

    There was quite an aggressive on in our dog training class too – the owner was trying to get her socialised and trained. Lovely dogs with the right owners and upbringing though (same with any breed, really).

    I’ve only ever seen one mildly aggressive border terrier – he was yappy and dominant, snapping at our dog, Benny. Benny never reacts though, he just trotted away silently and hid behind my legs. He’s so gentle and submissive I sometimes wonder there’s something wrong with him! Not sure what would have happened if the border terrier met a dog of a similar disposition.

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Dog killing a squirrel is hardly the end of the world is it!! Dogs Trust giving such advice is plain stupid.
    As an aside what wete terriers bred for and should they all be muzzelled in case they kill a fluffy bunny?

    MrsToast
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    Dog killing a squirrel is hardly the end of the world is it!! Dogs Trust giving such advice is plain stupid.

    I guess they’re more worried about other pets such as cats and smaller dogs – although I would have thought that if the dog was on a lead, it wouldn’t be an issue as it could be controlled by the owner. I guess the problem would be if it was running free in an area where cats/small dogs might also be running free.

    Personally the advice I’d give is that all greyhounds should be dressed like this:

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Thats a whippet!

    anagallis_arvensis
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    Greyhounds are very unagressive as a breed. In fact like lurchers most take cowadice to new levels. I also reckon judging by the number of people who reckon my lurcher is a greyhound miss identification of greyhounds and bull cross lurchers might be giving the greys a bad name. Theres a reason greys arent used to lamp foxes or deer and its not because they arent fast enough, thats why pitbull blood is added.

    JohnClimber
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    Archie our Border Terrier is 7, when he was a pup he was jumped on by 3 sharpei’s, he’s never trusted that breed since. He also has a dislike of male Staffies.
    Other than that he sniffs gets bored and moves on.
    We can now tell from his body launguage at a good distance if he’ll kick off so we take avoiding action before it happens.

    But what they don’t tell you about is the hair loss all year round. Now that’s a nightmare

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