TJ
I can only give you my questions on our future (prepares for a slating..)
1. World overpopulation? Directly linked to Global warming? What do we do about?
2. How do we stop the HR treaty being used for the wrong things?
3. Euthanasia, I'd like to choose.
4. Immigration
Feel free to add your own, shall we cap it at 20?
WE might have the wherewithall and intelligence to make the right decision in a referendum, but 99% of the general public are thick
After the 2+2+2+2+2x0 farce I'm not sure that "WE" are qualified to decide anything.
tbh I was devastated that so many voted against, I can't believe at least some of Red Ed's lot didn't join the fray.
To misjudge the mood of the country so badly.
Frankly all it does is enforce the hopelessness of our current situation, a badly needed reforming Government hamstrung by handwringing Liberal wets and an opposition so badly compromised by a fratricidal **** so in thrall to the Unions, that no-one can take them seriously.
Who the **** can you seriously vote for?
One point is true, the unwritten rule of the house, that if all the party leaders are in agreement then generally they are wrong.
The thing that is going to really get them is the growth in the 'occupy wall street' movement, what's going on stateside, I seriously think we could be in for a bit of an upheaval, it is time that Westminster bubble got burst.
well, we were given a chance to change the system (AV) - we didn't want it.
we were given a choice: something new / carry on as before.
we've got want we want.
Brave to stand up to the whips but spectacularly naive in their timing
Policitical gimmicks (epetition) weaken the concept of representative government, but if you chose to have them you have to live with the consequences, even when you dont like them
C'mon lets be serious with the 99% are thick comments - you either have a democracy/freedom of expression or you don't. Who is anyone to determine who is intelligent enough to vote?
But is we are to hold the 99% of the population are too thick to have a say, then drop the complaints about the % of oxbridge grads in government.
Inconsistent to reject the ability to protest against Europe (however) badly timed, but support the right to protest in front of St Pauls and Dale Farm. Rather selective methinks!
All my life I voted LibDem (SDP) was where I came in, the one time I voted Tory (I hate Clegg because of his pseudo Godlessness, not because he's Godless per se just because it demonstrates that his word is worth nothing) the Lib Dems get handed some power and look how they've squandered it. AV was a stupid contrivance and was turned down as such, full PR should have been what was on offer, then that's now off the table for all time afaics.
I wouldn't trust you with a referendum on a complex issue Hora
...and you are highbrow enough to make that assumption?
It's Congo Natty Time
not because he's Godless per se just because it demonstrates that his word is worth nothing
they arent showing balls, just stupidity
why exactly would cameron, hague and the 200+ other torries etc who ranted and raved about referndums and the EU in opposition suddenly become europhiles when in power?
because they know that the bullshit they spouted previously was just empty rhetoric to cynically win the votes of gullible, xenophobic, biggoted electorate who may or may not be thick, read the sun, mail, telegraph etc
they know the UK needs the EU, we need to be part of the EU and we need to have influence in the EU
the UK has already found itself shut out of the talks on the eurozone and torry rebels & cameron, hague etc mouthing off to please the europhobes at home has only made it more likely that any deal struck will be to the detrement of the UK
well, we were given a chance to change the system (AV) - we didn't want it.
Actually we were given nowt, we had an expensive vote about a system that neither the Lib dems or anyone else wanted against the status quo....shockingly staying where we were won the day in those circumstances. 
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