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209 posts & 51 voices | Started 3 years ago by GNARGNAR | Latest reply from Mr Agreeable

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GNARGNAR - Member

Believers on mountain bikes.

We are Believers On Mountain Bikes, our intent is to expand the Gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord, through people who mountain bike. Thereby, bring the word to those who are not Christians, encouraging ongoing fellowship, and presenting the opportunity for all of us to develop a personal relationship with Christ.

Anyone heard of this lot? Cant say I like the thought of this. On the one hand, everyone has the right to participate in the sport regardless of colour or creed but.....they are blatantly using mountain biking to convert people to their religion.

For them, mountainbiking is just a tool so they can climb the ladder in their cult of respectability?

I'd like to hope they wont become as vocal and obvious as christian surfers (bloody synonomous with the sport almost).

Discuss...

Posted 3 years ago #
marty - Member

nice acronym for a christian group...

Posted 3 years ago #
hora - Member

Any fit Godbookers? TBH they could convert me if they were fit (and put it out)

Posted 3 years ago #
higgo - Member

Depending on which brand of the cult of christ they belong to, they are obliged to try to convert you (for your own good, obviously).

Pity the deluded fools.

Posted 3 years ago #
geetee1972 - Member

'...my sport.'? Since when did you have the exclusive licence on mountain biking GnarGnar? (by the way I'm an atheist but I'm also not a bigot)

Posted 3 years ago #
GNARGNAR - Member

geetee1972 - Member
'...my sport.'? Since when did you have the exclusive licence on mountain biking GnarGnar?

I regard it as my sport, do you not regard it as your sport? I could have typed "our sport" but that would be making an assumption that everyone on here is passionate about it and feels a degree of ownership / responsibility toward it.

Id like to think Im not a biggot either.

Posted 3 years ago #
BigDummy - Member

Cycling; a pleasing sport in which fellowship, play and the taking of pleasure in the world around us are mingled to keep us young, happy and vigorous.

If some people want to bolt specific beliefs about the nature of life, the universe and everything onto that then that is their affair.

I had no idea surfers were all christians, by the way.

Posted 3 years ago #
boxelder - Member

Live and let ride. Why's it any worse than all the other over hyped advertising schmuffle that seems to cling to riding nowadays? I don't think they'll be chasing you through the woods.

Posted 3 years ago #
robdob - Member

I'm not fit. Anyway I'm married.

Posted 3 years ago #
wwaswas - Member

The only thing that bother me about their approach is that, if they tried to talk to me about religion, I'd think;

"The only reason you spoke to me was to try and convert me"

at the end and any feeling that we were sharing an experience or hobby would be lost.

Posted 3 years ago #
buzz-lightyear - Member

"they are blatantly using mountain biking to convert people to their religion."

Religious people trying to convert heathens - I'm shocked!

Posted 3 years ago #
trailmonkey - Member

What's the peoblem ? If you don't wish to be converted, just tell them to F off.

Get rid of them and feel good at the same time

Posted 3 years ago #
GNARGNAR - Member

wwaswas - Member
The only thing that bother me about their approach is that, if they tried to talk to me about religion, I'd think;

"The only reason you spoke to me was to try and convert me"

at the end and any feeling that we were sharing an experience or hobby would be lost.

I dont think that's how they operate, I could be wrong but I think the idea is to bond with you over an extended period of time through a shared enjoyment of a particular activity, all the while portraying the impression that they are great blokes with great lives....eventually they earn your friendship and trust then bam! they drag you into a bush and baptise you....something like that.

Posted 3 years ago #
wwaswas - Member

"they drag you into a bush"

that's hora converted then

Posted 3 years ago #
roper - Member

I have ridden with people who believe in things!! wwooooooooooooooooooooooo

Posted 3 years ago #
mt - Member

"....climb the ladder in their Cult of respectability" whats that mean? Jacobs Ladder? It would be a miracle to be able to ride that all the way. If they want to use their sport to share their religion with others then fantastic, it's good to see that there are people around who believe in some thing. Now that shopping is on the decline as a major religion then perhaps we'll see a return to more faith based beliefs. Obviously it's not going to a good idea if they were to hold prayer meetings just the start of that "do or die bit" on the last section of the Innerleithen downhill but on one occasion recently it may have helped me.

Posted 3 years ago #
thisisnotaspoon - Member

theres a few christians at sheffield uni cycling club, never seen any of them clear jacobs ladder past the first RH turn after the streem. Not seen an atheist manage it either though.

Posted 3 years ago #
wwaswas - Member

I don't think Christian MTBers climb, they ascend.

Posted 3 years ago #
hora - Member

Quick question. Do you see Bible bashers down at the homeless and washed-out actively trying to convert them? Am I being cynical here but are biblebashers selective (or at least draw the line) on whom they want in their community? Its a human weakness after all but surely they should seek to convert ALL souls.

Posted 3 years ago #
hora - Member

"they drag you into a bush"

That pleases me on so many many levels

Posted 3 years ago #
Mistere - Member

Not seen an atheist manage it either though.

That's because you've not been riding with us for ages.

Posted 3 years ago #
GNARGNAR - Member

hora - Member
Quick question. Do you see Bible bashers down at the homeless and washed-out actively trying to convert them? Am I being cynical here but are biblebashers selective (or at least draw the line) on whom they want in their community? Its a human weakness after all but surely they should seek to convert ALL souls.

In their defence many do. It might be my skewed sense of things but I've noticed this tends to be COE etc, not neccesarily born agains and evangelicals. They seem to have a hard on for converting drunks with tea and biscuits.

mt - Member
"....climb the ladder in their Cult of respectability" whats that mean? Jacobs Ladder?

Do I have to elaborate?

Posted 3 years ago #
geetee1972 - Member

Jacob's Ladder, now there was an excellent film.
Kind of fits in with the God thing as well.

Posted 3 years ago #
ShinyRedOrange - Member

When the Jehovas came round to the house when I was a kid my dad would answer the door and the conversation usually went like this.

Jehova - "hi, isn't it a lovely day"

Me - "who is it dad?"

Dad - "happy clappers son... get my gun"

Worked every time.

Posted 3 years ago #
miketually - Member

Quick question. Do you see Bible bashers down at the homeless and washed-out actively trying to convert them? Am I being cynical here but are biblebashers selective (or at least draw the line) on whom they want in their community? Its a human weakness after all but surely they should seek to convert ALL souls.

There are Christians helping in pretty much all the world's trouble spots and lots working to help the homeless. I personally know two who worked in the Romanian orphanages and another couple who are currently in Africa.

The Salvation Army do a bit with the homeless too, I believe.

I know Christians with physics degrees being paid big money. I know Christians who are (or were) teenage single parents with no qualifications. I know Christians who are builders, teachers, chip shop fryers, midwifes, web designers, secretaries…

Obviously, none of that fits into the Ned Flanders right-wing creationist stereotype.

Posted 3 years ago #
I_did_dab - Member

cult of respectability

Since when was getting nailed to a tree (naked) respectable?

They probably just ride on Saturdays...

Posted 3 years ago #
robdob - Member

I'm certainly not selective in who I talk to, 2 of my best friends are, or more accurately were, a bank robber and a drug dealer. You just have to show love and compassion and hopefully someone will see a difference in you that will make them inquisitive to know more. If they aren't interested then that's ok, it's their decision.

Posted 3 years ago #
surfer - Member

Lots of Atheists do this as well but with greater moral justification. they dont think they are avoiding hell and destined for a greater reward like Evangelical Christians do. Consequently they get the higher moral ground as far as I am concerned.

Doctors without frontiers are secularist. It doesnt need an irrational belief in an invisible friend and the promise of an afterlife to be good to people in this one.

Posted 3 years ago #
higgo - Member

hora said: Do you see Bible bashers down at the homeless and washed-out actively trying to convert them?

You should see the Jesus Army operate.
They actively/aggressively target the street homeless (some would say the desparate and needy).

Posted 3 years ago #
GNARGNAR - Member

I'm certainly not selective in who I talk to, 2 of my best friends are, or more accurately were, a bank robber and a drug dealer.

Found jesus did they?

Posted 3 years ago #
Moses - Member

Do you see Bible bashers down at the homeless and washed-out

Yep, the Sally Army, etc.
And a very good thing, too. They don't try too hard about the conversion, either, as they're too busy being Christian and charitable.

Posted 3 years ago #
marty - Member

In their defence many do. It might be my skewed sense of things but I've noticed this tends to be COE etc, not neccesarily born agains and evangelicals. They seem to have a hard on for converting drunks with tea and biscuits.
ooh! what sort of biscuits. and can i have juice instead of tea?

Posted 3 years ago #
wwaswas - Member

shineyredorange - had a bloke round my house the other day who asked if I'd thought about vacuum cleaners recently. Turned out he was a jahoovers witness.

More seriously;

My mum is a christian missionary. She's approaching 75, goes to all parts of the world both preaching and getting equipment and materials to places that need them. She's just been appointed a Unesco representative and can direct where their aid goes. about 10 years ago she was in a minibus crash int he cameroon that left her with a fractured skull, broken neck, borken shoulder and a mashed left hand - 13 out out of the 15 people in the vehicle died. She says god was protecting her - I ask why god let her be int he crash in the first place. Still, hasn't slowed her down much and she's still pretty spry. I hope I've got that much living left to do at 75 as she seems to have, even if I don't share her beliefs.

Posted 3 years ago #
mysterymurdoch - Member

The title of this thread is a bit of a poor show and almost as offensive to christians as saying mongs, darkies or chinks to their respective groups.

I don't get the anti-religion feeling in this country; live and let live and as long as it doesn't affect your ability to live and enjoy life then just ignore it. A christian having a little chat doesn't hurt, but like myself when various religious groups try to talk to me in the street, you have the ability to say no thanks and walk on. Some fanatical religious groups are not like this though (think extreme 'christian' cult groups or various muslim extremist groups that hold protests and encourage hatred against others), but that's not related to the OP.

Posted 3 years ago #
robdob - Member

I_did_dab, that is the whole point, thanks.
Actually, I don't generally ride on Sundays, not because I think it's wrong, it's because I'm busy most of the day! I do go out on a Sunday afternoon sometimes. Saturday is better anyway, less walkers and tourists around.

Posted 3 years ago #