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Benefits of UST on Stans rims over standard "tubeless ready"?
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Posted 4 months ago #
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I've never used UST tyres on any No-Tubes rims and I've had Olympic, Flow, Arch and SunRingle Black Flag (license the design from Stans).
I think Stans rims are designed to use standard tyres.
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can't see any benefit, UST tyres are so heavy. No probs with Schwalbe, Kenda or maxxis on stans for me.
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The UST or LUST tyres tend to go up very easily; even bigger tyres on wider rims. I usually only need a track pump. The downside is that they are substantially heavier, if that sort of thing bothers you.
Some TR seem the same - Bonty MudX, some Schwalbe's. While others require more faffing around with and you might need CO2 or a compressor to get them to catch. Schwalbe Dirty Dans would be an example.
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Pros
tougher sidewalls (more pinchproof), a bit easier to inflate.
Cons
Weight (well duh! tougher almost always=heavier) expensive.UST (or dual ply) on the rear, TR or just standard on the front for me.
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Stans with normal tyres sounds like bodge city. I have a new set of stans with UST tyres on and they went up with a track pump in about 10 secs. If normal tyres can do the same then great, I'll try them - if you need a compressor or any general dicking around then I'm not interested.
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The liquid latex in tubeless ready tyres dries out much quicker than in ust tyres, and needs checking every 4 to 6 weeks rather than every 6 months.
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One of the supposed advantages of UST is sealing without sealant, but practically nobody does that anyway, and standard or TLR tyres + sealant is usually lighter than UST anyway.
UST is the tubeless equivalent of a dualply IMO- some people will benefit from it but for most, it's a bad option for everyday use.
MSP - Member
The liquid latex in tubeless ready tyres dries out much quicker than in ust tyres, and needs checking every 4 to 6 weeks
I've got tubeless-ready and standard tyres that have gone 6 months without any bother... Certainly wouldn't bother to check them any more frequently than that tbh.
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I think UST (and probably TR) have thicker bead-seating material and this prob helps initial sealing and possibly reduces burps
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Garry_Lager - Member
Stans with normal tyres sounds like bodge city.
I've never found it so. Most of my tyres (Conti, Maxxis, Kenda and Schwalbe) have gone up easily enough with a trackpump. One or two needed to be inflated with a tube first, then half-unbeaded and reinflated without the tube, but that only takes 2 minutes so it's no biggy (FWIW I had a UST tyre that was the same)
Mind you, I do use my compressor because I'm lazy, then again I use it for tubes too
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I've never found it so. Most of my tyres (Conti, Maxxis, Kenda and Schwalbe) have gone up easily enough with a trackpump. One or two needed to be inflated with a tube first, then half-unbeaded and reinflated without the tube, but that only takes 2 minutes so it's no biggy (FWIW I had a UST tyre that was the same)
Fair enough NW - one must weigh these words, though, against the eleventy million threads on tinternet on general Stans aggravation.Mind you, I do use my compressor because I'm lazy, then again I use it for tubes too
I'll obviously try normal tyres as the benefits in cost and weight are too great not too. I just don't anticipate it being straightforward.
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I've never used UST on my stans rims. standard or TR tyres seem fine most of the time. I've had the odd incident when I have tried to use a very light xc tyre though.
Just Riding Along website says the same thing and those folks have a fair bit of experience with tubeless stuff
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Much much tougher sidewalls on full UST tyres. I've not found tubeless ready tyres hard to inflate, for the most part, but I do kill them pretty quick, normally by killing sidewalls (specialized ones, maxxis LUST too) so it depends if you're riding rocky trails or if you want the security of a tougher tyre. Personally I think it is worth the weight penalty.
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Stans with normal tyres sounds like bodge city.
Nah, no problems whatsoever - but then I also (initially) use a compressor.
Normal tyres are normally lighter than UST's.
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Check out Stans website.
The rims are designed to work with any tyres.
I have had problems with Maxxis Medusa on Mavic 317 but a friend with Crest rims has no problem getting them inflated.
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Garry_Lager - Member
Fair enough NW - one must weigh these words, though, against the eleventy million threads on tinternet on general Stans aggravation.
Have to say, I have a set of 819s and a set of flows and once the yellow tape goes on, there's absolutely zero difference in tubeless performance- fitting tyres is identical
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UST often quite heavy but not always ded strong IME - I'm pretty sure UST nobby nics are made of thick tissue paper and then given the once over with grey copydex
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