wow, admire your patience, but what a waste of time!
Belt drive. It may be time to admit defeat.
I have to say that all of this ois helping to convince me that gates belts are a faff and a waste of money.
I had toyed vaguely with the idea of a belt drive commuting fixie or SS road bike but I think I can live with the weight for the cost and apparent maintenance savings...
Shame really as I sort of want it to be the perfect SS drive solution, but the t ain't really is it...
Emanuel, that's a steel splitter. My frame is titanium and instead of a removable section with two lap joints, has only single lap joint, meaning I have to spring the two halves apart to create a gap for the belt, so I guess mine would be a bit lighter than that.
but what a waste of time!
You only know that from my experience.
When I bought in to this, there was no one else's experience for me to go on, but it looked like a good idea, so I thought I'd try it.
There still isn't much in the way of real world experience out there.
Gates have got lots of publicity shots of commuter bikes and the occasional mountain bike on a dry, dusty trail.
STW have done their usual Copy & Paste of press releases without actually finding out if the product is fit for purpose or not.
As far as I can tell, I am the only person in the whole world to have attempted to ride a Gates Carbon Drive through leafy mud and proved that it doesn't work.
Serious question, have you sent pictures and mileage details to Gates to see if you can get their thoughts on the amount of wear you are suffering?
mtq-true, it's what I had on hand: the difference in weight is for steel frames using that method.
I had one belt replaced FOC by Gates. I haven't bothered chasing them about the others. Maybe I should have.
I'll be at Bristol Bike Fest at the weekend if anyone wants to have a look at the belt drive. I've only ever seen two others in real life myself, both on display, not being ridden.
I do wonder whether companies might pay you for destruction testing of kit, Graham!
Orange had a belt + Alfine bike a good few years back. I wonder if the fact that they didn't offer it as OE spec says that they also found it didn't work so well on MTBs. There was certainly interest and some demand.
Personally I don't see enough reason to even try it off road in the long-term (not meant as a dismissive view of your experience and these posts MTG, quite the opposite, if I had more time I'd like to know from experience not just building some city bikes - so this thread is appreciated), mainly as benefits over a chain were almost non-existent. For someone like me who changes ratios and wheels etc fairly regularly it would prove more faff than I could live with. Great for a clean city bike, but so is a chain-guard and wax lube : )
You only know that from my experience
not entirely. Look at the history of bicycles and look at how much has changed in drive-train technology, and every single "advance" be that belt, gearbox, shaft, 2WD, whatever has failed the remove the chain and sprocket as the lightest, most versatile, most long lived, most robust, and most cost effective way of propelling a bicycle forward short of strapping a motor into the frame.
Could have told you that from the get-go. But I don't need to, you've just found out for yourself
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