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didn't like the wheels, spoilt the bike. black groupset = black rims. I liked the brooks though,thinking about getting one now, and what a place for a first ride!!!!
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excellent programme overall I thought.
agreed brooks saddle looked a bit 'heritage' next to modern stuff.
didnt catch what forks he got or what hubs- dont think they were record but could have been???
the old dudes from klunkerz were still ripping the corners pretty well.
did anyone else think that art student's puppies looked rather fake?Posted 1 year ago # -
I mean I know it was all supposed to be 'the best money could buy' for his dream bike
He said at the start of the program that the components were the ones he wanted and not necessarily the best money can buy.
Really enjoyed the program. Seat looked odd on the bike though.Posted 1 year ago # -
I've just bought the book - and really enjoying it.
Personally, I'd have gone for Phil Wood hubs...
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Was a tidy little programme I thought. Even the missus enjoyed it.
I agree the end product seemed a bit "out of sorts," but if every part is genuinely his choice then that's his prerogative, and surely he has his reasons. Especially if he's going to cycle round the world again.
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didnt catch what forks he got or what hubs
Front hub was a Royce. British made I believe. So he probably bought it here and took it with him and they edited that bit out.
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I'm not a roadie, I don't know much at all about road bikes, but I know the carbon bars on a retro-style steel frame looked very wrong.
Didn't spoil my enjoyment of a nice show though.
That wheelbuilder had better be good if he's going to compare himself to Michelangelo though!
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I forgot to check if he alligned his logos and valves...
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As Allthegear has said, the only disappointing thing for me was the lack of seeing around the Campag and CK factories. Surely it would have been quite easy, with a little bit of planning, to have shown a bit more without jeopardising 'secrets' - or do they have something else to hide? Big as they are, I can't believe either company would pass up a golden marketing opportunity like that unless they had been given virtually no notice.
I have a feeling that there was a lot that had to be left on the cutting room floor to to fit into an hour and interest a wider audience. Maybe there could be an extended 'geek' version?
Still really enjoyed it though and I would like to see more from Mr Penn as his enthusiasm and obvious enjoyment of cycling is infectious and judging by the climb he did he's obviously bloody fit. I wonder if the Italians tried to drop him ?
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yeah, I would have liked to have seen hubs factory, or at least some emphasis on how key they are to a decent ride, could have put a bit of that in an cut out a bit of the nodders in blue bibs going round portlandPosted 1 year ago # -
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custom steel road bike? yes please
campag? ok well I understand the attraction
cinelli likewise, not sure about carbon on that bike
king? yes I suppose
brooks? hmmm not my tasteBut
orange and blue?
What was he thinking!!!!!!!
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I thought that - shocking choice of colours!!
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The Cinelli guy persuaded him to get carbon bars instead of alu as he originally planned. One aim was to build a bike that'll last so maybe carbon is expected to last for longer than alu bars? Or just prefers to comfort?
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I was surprised that Chris King wouldn't be interviewed. I've met and spoken to him a couple of times on Cycle Oregon. He serves coffee in the mornings and he keeps cickens. Top bloke.
Charlie Kelly and Joe Breeze are great guys too, met them on Mt Tam and at a friends wedding in Marin. Shot the breeze with Gravy too without knowing who he was. He was building up some wooden rimmed track wheels. Fairfax is a great town for anyone visiting San Francisco.
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I have to say I did think Chris King & company didn't do themselves too many favours there. Refusing to be interviewed and being a bit sniffy about the tour with the cameras makes you look a bit silly when your "secret" product is headsets and hubs! I've got a video I use with the kids at work (Design teacher) that shows some pretty in depth filming of Shimano & Campagnolo production lines. Their work force having a break looked exactly how I thought they would mind!
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I thought that - shocking choice of colours!!
I liked the colours - blue and orange are complementary colours - check the colour wheel if you don't believe me.
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They also missed out the visit to the DT Swiss factory for the rims and spokes, based on the sort of receptions he got, I wonder if he was frog marched to the DT gates at gun point.
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Wot no Shimano?
Thought I spied Ultegra in the wheel building bit. Might have just been the skewer though. Does Campag Record fit on Ultegra hubs?Liked the 2 colours. Just not together. Although it does have that retro feel.
The other 2 progs about bikes that followed were OK too.
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orange and blue?
What was he thinking!!!!!!!
Of course, orange and blue can look great
He just didn't get the shades quite right. If I were choosing a colour for my 'ultimate all-time bike' I think I'd give it a bit more consideration than being rushed into it at the last minute.
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I wonder if he went along as an 'independant'?
I'm sure he'd have had a much better reception if he had said "Hello, I'm making a documentary for The BBC in which we are building a bike using only the finest components from the best manufacturers........".
I bet he wouldn't have had to pay for most of the bits either !
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aaarrgghhh not doing the Tom Simpson prog on iplayer!
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was a great programme.
Yeah the end result want to everyone's taste (well, not to anyone's except his but that's what it's all about).
Di danyone catch the Claire Balding one beforehand? I saw the last 10 minutes and that looked quite good too.
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2retro4u
Marin County, CaliI'm hearing a lot about the programme, and I see several flattering mentions of my name in this thread, but I haven't seen it because you can't watch it online outside the UK.
And yes, McMoonter is a personal friend. We met when he asked me for directions while he was lost on Mount Tamalpais.
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Oops. Stand corrected. I missed the first fifteen minutes or so and got the impression he was after 'the best' after the way he kept banging on about his 'dream bike'.
I was probably a bit harsh last night but I stand by the essence of my previously stated opinions...which is really weird as I like steel, I like Campag and I like road bikes.
Oh...and for the person who wasn't sure. Yes, it was Reynolds 953 tubing.
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Charlie (Repack Rider):
You guys came across so well, some beautiful cinematography and it just summed up perfectly the joy of riding.Maybe someone will upload that clip to YouTube sometime.
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RID, without getting hung up about his bike or reasons for building it, its hard to deny that it was a great programme about the history of the bike and how its markets have developed.
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Wife's away this evening, think i'll watch this on iPlayer. Woohoo! Just need some ale.
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Charlie Kelly, he said you guys were the saviour of the bike (or something along those lines).
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oh and these guys think blue and orange go together
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I bet shimano would have given him a tour of the factory. How could any of their "secrets" possibly have been compromised by filming a few shots of people working? It's not like they're making space shuttles in there is it?!
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No, I think Shimano would have been just the same. I read an article in MBR/WMB/MBUK and the jurno was saying just the same thing. All the photos were 'press released' and they were only allowed in the 'meet and greet' room.
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Have to say that I really enjoyed it too and couldn't help thinking that the STW mob are going to love this
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Hey CK,
I thought they were going to send us copies before it aired on the tele? Oh gee, another broken promise. Somehow, after flying the crew over from the UK and all, I bet they broke even...at least. Posted 1 year ago #
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