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  • bbc1 now. benefit cap.
  • cumberlanddan
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    Ewan – are you talking about tax take or benefits?

    The point I was making above is that the levels of tax avoidance – legal or otherwise – far exceeds the amount claimed in benefits by ‘scoungers’ and probably exceeds the benefits bill in its entirety. So, why not focus efforts where there is more to be gained?

    The answer can only be ideology – divide and rule.

    Ewan
    Free Member

    Who knows? Perhaps his parents don’t have a spare room for him, or he’s moved to a city with more chance of getting a job.

    Doesn’t seem unreasonable that someone actively looking for a job is claiming benefits, so this is fine by me.

    ton
    Full Member

    ffs I started this for a bit of fun………wishing I had put itv on now….. 😆

    kerley
    Free Member

    Yes but why is kerley’s lad not living back home instead of spending £375 a month on rented accommodation? Clearly I don’t know the specifics of his case but none of our kids would expect the state to pay for their keep if they were in that situation

    You have missed the point. It was a real world example of what a person can get. Do you think £100 a month to live on is a luxurious life that many assume all people on benefits are living?

    Ewan
    Free Member

    Ewan – are you talking about tax take or benefits?

    The point I was making above is that the levels of tax avoidance – legal or otherwise – far exceeds the amount claimed in benefits by ‘scoungers’ and probably exceeds the benefits bill in its entirety. So, why not focus efforts where there is more to be gained?

    I was talking about whether it’s worth worrying that a very small percentage of people might be working the system to get more benefits than they are ‘entitled’ to. Agreed that illegal tax avoidance is a bigger issue and that this TV show is just lazy TV trying to cause an ‘outrage’ about a trivial issue.

    cumberlanddan
    Free Member

    Dickyboy – Member

    Yes but why is kerley’s lad not living back home instead of spending £375 a month on rented accommodation?

    Perhaps because there’s no jobs or prospects where he’s from? I grew up in Cumbria and would have struggled to find decent work if I hadn;t moved south. On the one hand you say live with your parents – well that equates to unemployment and on the other hand you say get a job – for which you have to move away.

    The real story in kerleys post is the fact that someone is raking £1500 a month in from the state in rent, presuming everyone in the shared house is on benefits. That is scandalous.

    Dickyboy
    Full Member

    You only have to see my earlier post to see that i don’t disagree with you about housing and how miserable it is to be on benefits.

    rene59
    Free Member

    Yes but why is kerley’s lad not living back home instead of spending £375 a month on rented accommodation?

    Maybe because he is a 23 year old grown man, not a little child.

    thecaptain
    Free Member

    To be fair it sounds like here are no jobs where he is now, at least none he can do/get. But I agree that most benefits end up in the pockets of private landlords, indeed we had a DSS tenant once or twice while living abroad (and a right ballache they were, trashing the place and running up arrears that the insurance covered).

    gofasterstripes
    Free Member

    When did Social Security become “Benefits”.

    Who controls the language controls the discussion…

    bearnecessities
    Full Member

    Sam, don’t make me get involved 🙂

    You’ve changed your number btw, or are ignoring me – bastard.

    piemonster
    Full Member

    PSA poverty porn on C4 now, get your poverty porn now on C4

    Hatred and Pity for all!

    milky1980
    Free Member

    Its a pretty shitty lifestyle choice, there must be something very wrong in their lives to start with if they see it as an acceptable option.

    They grew up surrounded by people living like this (Ringland in Newport in the late 90’s, before it got better) so they have become accustomed to no-one working, living in a tip etc. Despite moving to a much, much better area and having the opportunity to go to college they have, as a family, chosen to stay on the same path. The culture is really, really ingrained in them.

    alpin
    Free Member

    We need to start giving people hope, being inclusive, and allowing everyone worthwhile lives

    +1

    Very much this. Whilst those in charge of the machines get richer it will be those that are replaced that suffer. This is something that will effect both “1St” and “3rd“ world countries.

    And whilst Hans Rosling sounds incredibly up lifting, his predictions don’t bode well for those of us (or our offspring) accustomed to a western lifestyle.
    The world may well be able to hold another 30% more people, but in what conditions and to what detriment to the planet?

    Save the planet? Kill yourself.

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