Anyone here going to vote yes to av? Im voting no so we could both save ourselves the bother.
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Yes & think I managed to convince an 85 year old young lady about the advantages of it as we walked in together (she wasn't even aware of the vote). The cat's on youtube convinced me see!
Naahhhh, now you need to find some-one else with a no vote to beat us!!!
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I'm a yes, but won't be going to the polling station today. that any good for you?
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I voted yes already, why are you voting no?
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Yes from me
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alfabus. your the man for the job- I wont go if you dont
I think my leaning to the no vote is based mainly on the premise that I want the Libdems to get the biggest kicking possible, The Tories are just being Tories, but the Libdems betrayed us IMO.
I do accept however that I am no Andrew Marr, Ive not got much faith in , or knowledge of politics.Posted 1 year ago # -
deal.
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I think my leaning to the no vote is based mainly on the premise that I want the Libdems to get the biggest kicking possible, The Tories are just being Tories, but the Libdems betrayed us IMO.
I'm massively disappointed with the Lib Dems too, but the system is rotten, and this is a tiny step in the right direction.
Turnout has been pitifully low in my local area apparently.
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Turnout is what could save the yes vote
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Can't see the point in AV. I'll be a No.
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Turnout has been pitifully low in my local area apparently.
Out for a couple of hours around the villages this morning, I must have passed at least a dozen polling stations and didn't see a single person going in or out
there's a lot of postal voting going on thoughfor the record, I'm a 'no' - I believe my opinion has prevailed by all accounts
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Turnout is what could save the yes vote
Low turnout would be the get out clause for either loser I imagine. Local elections never get a big turnout anyway. Not sure if the AV vote would pull in any more voters that weren't going anyway. Bound to get apathy unfortunately in Lab/Con safe seats as it wouldn't make a difference. Would be interesting to see the stats in more marginal regions.
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Can't see the point in AV. I'll be a No.
Have you actually looked into the arguments?
for the record, I'm a 'no' - I believe my opinion has prevailed by all accounts
Apathy and fear of change has won, yay!
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Everyone i've met (in real life, not on stw) who is a "no" or "don't know" has misunderstood the system, and after i've explained it they've turned into a "yes".
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Apathy and fear of change has won, yay!
you deduced this gem from ?
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Maybe that low turnout is a form of vote, I did used to be quite political but now I just have no faith in any of them. I just feel that by voting im lending credibility to a system that is indeed rotten.
Deal done Alfabus
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"I think my leaning to the no vote is based mainly on the premise that I want the Libdems to get the biggest kicking possible, The Tories are just being Tories, but the Libdems betrayed us IMO."
By "betrayed us" I take it you voted for them. In which case, why is it when you get the chance to vote for a Lib Dem policy of greater representation, you reject it purely because some other policies have - inevitably - had to be dropped due to the nature of coalition? You're saying it's better to vote no because the Tory party, of which you speak disparagingly, has been consistent on this matter, than the Lib Dems have had to make concessions? Is the worth of a policy solely determined by whether someone's stuck by it for longer? Because that seems to get in the way of progress rather.
I don't understand the "Nick Clegg's pissed me off so now for that reason alone I'm going to vote against the things I previously voted for" philosophy.
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Can't you just press the AV button on your TV remote?
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In that leaflet, the example of the race says that the guy who came last in the first round ends up winning, which is impossible. Nice work.
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It may be worth pointing out that although will be abiding by the letter of the OP's original proposal, I'm probably not entering into the spirit of it.
I won't be going to a polling station today, because I voted 'Yes' by postal vote last week.
Sorry if that adds to your opinion that all politics is duplicitous sweepy
Dave
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I voted yes after that VT with the snow bloke and the poor souls who wanted to go the pub but had to go to a crap coffee shop instead cos of fptp. No way am I sitting in a coffee shop when I could be in a pub.
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Dan Snow's video made my mind up.
I'd prefer to go for a coffee than the pub so I voted NO.
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alfabus, you've just made me genuinely lol
I suppose he's still got a few hours to make it down and beat your cunning ruse.
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Curses, ive been done.
Can't you just press the AV button on your TV remote?
Ah ha, ill not press it- take that alfabusfor the record ive never actually voted Libdem, I just feel betrayed cos they've split the left for years, then kissed up to the Tories for a sniff of power.
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I thought I'd at least give him a chance to go and vote.... that is how dedicated I am to allowing everyone to have their say, regardless of whether I agree with them or not
Exit polls don't look good, looks like we're under the boot of petty two party swinging politics for the foreseeable future; where 'opposition' means "I disagree with everything the government says" and the moderate majority remains unrepresented.
ho hum. a sad day for British democracy.
Dave
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Turnout seemed pretty good at our polling station, but that's probably more to do with the Scottish elections than the AV vote.
I voted no. I might have been interested in a proper attempt at a PR system but the proposed AV system will change nothing so isn't worth the cost of implementing.
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I voted yes, my dad voted no, and my mum didn't vote so may as well have not bothered!
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Could well be a very bad night for the LibDems - almost certainly a strong No on AV plus probably taking a battering in the other elections.
Being in bed with the Tories isn't going to go down well in Scotland so they might get destroyed up here.
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Voted yes.
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I'm sick of everyone going on about the libdems... they have nothing to do with it, this was a referendum on electoral reform which would have benefitted everyone except those with a vested interest in the status quo - namely whichever of the big two happens to be in power at the moment.
voting 'no' because you don't like nick clegg is just cutting your nose off to spite your face, in 50 years no-one will remember nick clegg, but they will still be stuck with first past the post. the disillusionment everyone talks about is not going to go away while we have fptp; if a new party popped up tomorrow that was everything you say you'd like in politics, they wouldn't stand a chance of election because of the entrenched 30% in every constituency which picks red or blue because that is what their parents/newspaper did.
very effective no campaign. throw loads of shit and lies around and make it a negative popularity contest.
epicsteve, I really hope your comment about implementation cost wasn't related to the 250 million bullshit figure they are so fond of trotting, I believe that was debunked further up the page. You say you would have gone for PR, well you can kiss goodbye to a chance for that in our lifetimes.
Dave
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epicsteve, I really hope your comment about implementation cost wasn't related to the 250 million bullshit figure they are so fond of trotting
Nope - based on my opinion that even if it only cost 10p it'd still be too much...
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I voted NO like most sensible people did
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2x yes here in Carbon towers.
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i put yes as my first choice and no as my second
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just after the expenses scandal there wouldve been a huge turnout for the av vote and a resounding yes
its amazing how quickly the british public are happy to sit back and chow down on the bs spouted by the ruling elite
a 'new politics' my arsein a nation where more people vote for xfactor/big brother than an election we probably deserve fptp
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