TBH though, If I was buying expensive s/h stuff and the seller actually commented on a component, I'd expect them to be clear about it and so "fine" to me in that context implies free of defects. "fine but slightly gritty" would be far better than "fine" if that's the true situation.
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Attention Ian Pinder: The wheelset I bought have gritty bearings
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OH MY GOD! ROUGH WHEEL BEARINGS! I'M AMAZED YOUR WORLD HASN'T ENDED!
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TBH though, If I was buying expensive s/h stuff and the seller actually commented on a component, I'd expect them to be clear about it and so "fine" to me in that context implies free of defects. "fine but slightly gritty" would be far better than "fine" if that's the true situation.
Surely that's for the buyer to delve deeper in order to find out, no? If i was in any doubt about the wording of an advert i would question it and get the seller to clarify. If you don't surely it's a sold-as-seen item.
If I was spending £350 on a set of 2nd hand wheels i would expect them to be faultless otherwise you may as well buy new and know they will be A-OK, but that's because £350 is a lot of money to me, but it might not be to someone else.
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Without maligning the OP, if you have to get a shop to fit Stan's rimstrip for you, you're the sort of person who really shouldn't be buying SH stuff. I agree that unless otherwise disclosed you'd expect everything to be in good order, but it's unreasonable to expect it to be as new.
As it is, £68 sounds a lot for bearings; I'd expect to source and fit them myself. If I wasn't capable of that I'd probably be buying new, as getting a bike shop to source and fit components is about the most expensive way I can think to do it.
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just had a txt from ian........he is on his way to the op's house to deliver a huuuge portion of fist pie........
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How much are these new?
I mean over a year old, if youre spending that on old wheels you really need to be asking questions.
Fine is like a shrug of the shoulders, add the age of the parts then fine sounds erm err fine.
I'm light on my kit, but I'd expect there to be wear in the bearings after a years use, if Ian had said they were new bearings I'd be surprised to find them a bit gritty sounding but I wouldn't be bothered.
I'd say nows the time to learn how to fit new ones.
Is Stans rim strip like rim tape? you know me and my backward technology.Posted 1 year ago # -
It's lucky that his employer deals in finance people as they're obviously not terribly well versed in Inglish. I hadn't realised that some people really put work emails on public forums.
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If I was spending £350 on a set of 2nd hand wheels i would expect them to be faultless
I would never expect any second hand item containing moving mechanical parts to be faultless unless it is still boxed and unused, nevermind a mountain bike part that has most likely been used in demanding conditions.
Without maligning the OP, if you have to get a shop to fit Stan's rimstrip for you, you're the sort of person who really shouldn't be buying SH stuff
I think they saw him coming!
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just had a txt from ian........he is on his way to the op's house to deliver a huuuge portion of fist pie........
Brilliant ! Let us know how that goes !
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I always wondered who it was riding their bike in this stuff, it's that bloomin Ian Pinder that's who.
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im not sure a fisting is gonna fix this.
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You emailed on friday, you do know it's only monday now?
People go away for weekends you know.
Sounds like you have more money than sense if you go to the LBS to fit rim strip on £350 wheels.
Do you get the LBS to pump your tyres too?
Starting a thread is a bit nobbish.
Chill out, i'm sure Ian will get back to you.Posted 1 year ago # -
Surely that's for the buyer to delve deeper in order to find out, no?
*gets out blacklist*If i was in any doubt about the wording of an advert i would question it and get the seller to clarify. If you don't surely it's a sold-as-seen item.
But there is no doubt, they're fine, and if OP had asked about them he'd presumably have been told exactly that. All that's in doubt for me is exactly how "unfine" they are.Posted 1 year ago # -
im not sure a fisting is gonna fix this
No, putting cotton wool in your ears is a better way of stopping them sounding a bit gritty.
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So is everybody defending the guy who mis-sold the wheels and then hung up on the buyer and didn't bother contacting him again, knowing there was a problem?
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I am struggling to work out why people are threatening to fist each other into next week!
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fist each other into next week
sounds like a pain in the bum.
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thebikechain - Member
I am struggling to work out why people are threatening to fist each other into next week!
Pervert!
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I think we've established that they haven't been mis-sold, and that fine doesn't mean perfect.
So no problem.Posted 1 year ago # -
Thundercats!!! HOOOO!
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Thundercats!!! HOOOO!
Have you been on the G & T85
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I think we've established that they haven't been mis-sold, and that fine doesn't mean perfect.
So no problem.So if somebody sold you something that wasn't as expected, and then refused to answer your calls and emails to discuss the matter, you'd be happy enough?
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then refused to answer your calls and emails to discuss the matter,
OP:
I sent you an email on Friday informing you about the bearings but you have not yet responded. I have also called you but we got cut off after I announced myself and you are now on voicemail
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-suprise-5-days-off-what-should-i-do
I'm thinking of trekking up to scotland and getting some skiing in preperation for my alps trip next week.
cant imagine why he might not be in phone contact or email, can you?
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im not sure a fisting is gonna fix this
Have all the mods gone on holiday, this thread wouldn't have got past the first page last week - let alone page two and the talk of fisting and delving deeper.....
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so long as the STW regulars pointed out my error, i would be more than happy.
*passes out G&T85's*
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Other than the two individuals involved, no-one really knows what's gone on.
If the bearings are genuinely knackered then it should have been made clear from the outset and the seller ought to put his hand up to it and sort it out (ie a refund).
If on the other hand (and if I had to make a bet, this would be where my money is), the buyer is about as mechanically minded as my 5 year old and has been fed a line by a shop mechanic. Instead of trying to resolve this sensibly he has resorted to flaming the seller on a forum. Shame on him, very poor form. However, clearly he's a little on the dim side to have posted his phone number and work email also so it is only to be expected.
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looks like loads of you are gonna get some fist pie now, what with stoners explanation of why ian is uncontactable.............
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then refused to answer your calls and emails to discuss the matter,
OP:
I sent you an email on Friday informing you about the bearings but you have not yet responded. I have also called you but we got cut off after I announced myself and you are now on voicemail
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/a-suprise-5-days-off-what-should-i-do
I'm thinking of trekking up to scotland and getting some skiing in preperation for my alps trip next week.
cant imagine why he might not be in phone contact or email, can you?
priceless.
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Mr Pinder should be given a fair window of opportunity, which should be longer than a weekend IMO.
WRT the condition of the wheels, well it depends on how gritty they are which is something none of us know.
Regardless, this is an unfair way to resolve seeing as Ian Pinder isn't here to defend himself. This is for those two to resolve (with or without fist pie) Posted 1 year ago # -
Surely it should be "the wheelset I bought HAS gritty bearings"?
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Pretty much so, but that's my take on buying secondhand year old consumable items.
I've just bought some forks, lovely they are. The seller said the poploc was intermitant, but actually I've never got the poploc to work. Never called him back because I knew I could sort them.
I think you need to build that in when buying parts that wear.Posted 1 year ago # -
If on the other hand (and if I had to make a bet, this would be where my money is), the buyer is about as mechanically minded as my 5 year old and has been fed a line by a shop mechanic
We haven't even had Ian's side of the story yet. Let's not even go into guessing what the mechanic thinks
Anyway, *sips G & T85*, back to the main crux of the issue.... Pies and closed hands.
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I miss you Mark.
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Miss you too. My desktop is our jumping pic so i see you every day if that's any consolation. Happy Times.
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