if you think it’s wrong to stand up and ask questions about the way our world is being run, you think it’s just a bunch of hippie’s who have nothing better to do…. please watch this and tell me what they were doing wrong and why is it illegal to protest on our streets…. The money men have the power of the police behind them. The police do as they’re told, without asking questions…Shame on them…

[video]http://player.vimeo.com/video/42097945[/video]

link pls

edit:Cheers

I decided to ignore the occupy movement as soon as I discovered they think they can feed the world off organic food.

Yes, they are a bunch of hippie scum.

I am sure you will be very happy living in you Murdoch media controlled world.

organic food.

eeurrrgh.. dirty swine!! send ’em to Guantanamo

😉

eeurrrgh.. dirty swine..! send ’em to Guantanamo

I’d rather use them to fill mass graves.

As such I propose assisted suicide as their method for delivering us a world in which we can feed ourselves sustainably with organic crops. They can start with themselves first.

Label someone, group them, distinguish from or to oneself, repeat.

^ Works easier with numpties who aren’t brave enough to swim against the tide.

Some rich people are good.
Some poor people are good.

They decided to label themselves by releasing a group manifesto, if you support the movement as a whole you support certain policies within that movement. Some of their policies are downright dangerous for developing third world nations.

Please read the Guardian for further information.

I’d rather use them to fill mass graves.

a very wasteful suggestion from the great uncultured hope there..

use for them for burgers at least

They can start with themselves first.

Death by tautology? 😉

Bunch of hippies.
I was once one (it was ‘Stop The City’ in my day).

It’s doubtful what effect we had or they will have but it is the job of optimistic, idealistic youth to do this sort of thing.

use for them for burgers at least

Would they be vegetarian?

😉

Please read the Guardian for further information.

The film reviews are pretty good too.

Would they be vegetarian?

They certainly wouldn’t be organic with all the semi-synthetic/synthetic drugs that have probably kept the majority of them from dying soon after they were born or during childhood.

The moment you are born you are part of the problem.

The rest of your life is to minimise damage to all … 🙄

Initially, occupy sounded good. I’m all for a bit of anti greed then it seemed to get hijacked by the crusties and it turned all leftie and anti capitalist, which is just dumb in my opinion. I won’t shed any tears if the rozzers give em a hiding.

optimistic, idealistic youth

Pre-mortgage. Lucky bastards. Good on them. As long as balance prevails.

Shoot yourself then Chewkw! Do us a favour if the malthusians are correct and you care so much about being a problem.

I for one could not give a **** about nature (one that riddled us with disease and strife as hunter gatherers) as long as the planet is well enough for us to survive and is in as good a condition as it needs to be to keep us mentally happy.

So, were you to watch all of that video above then you end up with a list of a further three videos, one of which may cause the swear filter to have a fit 🙂

and point taken yunki although the usual pinch of salt with this sort of vid has to be taken as well

Some of their policies are downright dangerous for developing third world nations.

yes capitalism has been particularly spectacular at eradicating poverty, preventable disease and starvation form the third world….probably the most salient and rational point you made so far.

Every human being should have access to an adequate income for their livelihood, so we ask for work or, alternatively, universal basic income guarantee.

Imagine what would happen if we did this to them 😯
Shudders

And how do they plan to get that with organic farming?

They could probably get sustainable food security with a more limited effect of the environment or even a reduction in agricultural space by going GM.

Funnily enough…. capitalism is doing a damn good job of funding GMO’s (if it hadn’t been stalled by activists Africa would have less food security issues by now) and of slowly lifting people out of poverty in some second world nations such as China.

Would a universal income not destroy the competitiveness of these countries and so stop investment that eventually leads to wage hikes?

Fools, fools and more fools.

Thanks for that. Well made film. I thought the chap at the start was fairly pointless, but the woman talking later about political policing was nicely eloquent.

How many have starved to death or died from preventable [ but non profitable to treat] diseases during this “damn good” time of capitalism?

so stop investment that eventually leads to wage hikes?the west exploiting their resources and people to make even greater profit and export this wealth from the country to help keep fat cat westerners rich

FTFY in an occupy stylee

How many have starved to death or died from preventable [ but non profitable to treat] diseases during this “damn good” time of capitalism?

How many starved to death in the USSR. Quite a few. I think more people will starve to death if their country is made uncompetitive by a universal minimum wage.

Had the greens not effectively stopped GMO crops being introduced into African nations, far fewer people would have died from starvation today. Oh but they are nice hippies, so we should respect that? They obviously don’t want people to starve, peace and harmony and all that maan. But when science find’s a way, no sorry you can’t have that. We’ll let you starve until we find a political solution.

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Shoot yourself then Chewkw! Do us a favour if the malthusians are correct and you care so much about being a problem.

I for one could not give a **** about nature (one that riddled us with disease and strife as hunter gatherers) as long as the planet is well enough for us to survive and is in as good a condition as it needs to be to keep us mentally happy.

So you think he is wrong then … hhhhmmmm …. 😆

For you to enjoy the world or do as you like the population will naturally cull themselves to free up more space because that’s just the nature of things … so you see you don’t have to be concern about the nature.

Junkyard, if capitalism is that awful, who made your computer? Etc. 😉

OK, so it’s not perfect and yes, many, many people in the developing world continue to suffer, but I’d argue that the benefits of capitalism have helped those regions more than hindered. Education, medicine, transportation, communication, food, etc, etc, etc. It’s not all rapacious greed-mongers like Apple, you know.

For you to enjoy the world or do as you like the population will naturally cull themselves to free up more space because that’s just nature of things … so you see you don’t have to concern about the nature.

Or technology will improve giving everyone more food and better living standards. Can’t have that though can we, you’d rather let people starve to death or enter forced sterilization programs than prosper and multiply due to technological advancements pushed by capitalism. All because a few to many daffodils are being trampled and you want a little more space to enjoy the countryside.

I think it’s funny that the “we are the 99%” mob are the 1% compared to the rest of the world’s population.

bwaarp – Member

Or technology will improve giving everyone more food and better living standards. Can’t have that though can we, you’d rather let people starve to death or enter forced sterilization programs than prosper and multiply due to technological advancements pushed by capitalism. All because a few to many daffodils are being trampled and you want a little more space to enjoy the countryside.

😆 So you define the living standard for those Amazon Indians? Should Amazon Indians be using iPhone and iPad? Do you wish to have the world in your image or live according to your lifestyle?

So you define the living standard for those Amazon Indians? Should Amazon Indians be using iPhone and iPad? Do you wish to have the world in your image or live according to your lifestyle?

Who say’s I have an Ipad? Although I might buy an a smart phone that sources it’s production from a Chinese company that pays a half decent wage, that way I’m supporting a developing nation. No but I would generally say for the majority of people discounting certain tribes there is a basic minimum living standard. So if they want good medical care, food security, good housing, good education, clean water and access to the internet then they should be allowed.

Regulated capitalism that does not abuse those people can do just that.

Flash are you actually trying to make a point there and not just snipe 😉

Capitalism does nothing unless it can profit from it. there is no profit in helping poor people so they live in poverty, die from preventable disease and starve. where it does help it employs people to make a profit and for no other reason [ its about the shareholders silly not the workers ]. It is not hard to think of a method of making the world fairer even if you keep the current system but you wont make money doing it.

Capitalism does nothing unless it can profit from it. there is no profit in helping poor people so they live in poverty

Yes but generally if one can make a country stable enough then capitalism can be used to develop that country. The Philippines and other Asian countries are good examples of a countries that is slowly climbing it’s way out of social poverty, through capitalism. If the Phillipines were not so corrupt and slightly more socialist then it would do even better. The point I’m making is that if you swing to far in one direction, socialism or unregulated capitalism then you will get poverty.

Once China move’s away from an industry based economy it will move it’s industry to Africa. It’s a giant pass the parcel game that has yet to be completed.

How do you think the vaccines for preventing disease are developed? Hippies giving their money away to big pharma? Nooooooooo.

bwaarp – Member
So if they want good medical care, food security, good housing, good education and access to the internet then they should be allowed.

Regulated capitalism that does not abuse those people can do just that.

😆 Are you saying they are not content with their lifestyle? They have everything but then you come along and define what’s good for them then … you see … you cull them in your image. You then called it regulated capitalism for greater good …

Are you saying they are not content with their lifestyle? They have everything but then you come along and define what’s good for them then … you see … you cull them in your image. You then called it regulated capitalism for greater good …

Generally if you read about or talk to these people they want food, water and good education to improve the lives of their children. So… I’m not being Mr White man colonialist who expects they want the same lifestyle as me. You assume they are savages who know no better; that because they are desperately poor they know little better and want little more. You believe that they cannot think for themselves, this is racism at it’s finest.

I am not talking about Amazonian tribes who have good access to food.

yunki, thanks for the link.

bwaarp – Member

Generally if you read about or talk to these people they want food, water and good education to improve the lives of their children. So… I’m not being Mr White man colonialist who expects they want the same lifestyle as me. You assume they are savages who know no better, that because they are desperately poor they know little better and want little more.

Nope. Nothing to do with Mr White there but then Mr White just quicken the pace of consumption that’s all.

Yes, many people want better life only if they are trained to be consumers otherwise they might simply be content with what they already have … only for a while until they get extremely bore.

I am not talking about Amazonian tribes who have good access to food.

Ya, they have good access to food and they will adapt too in future but their stress free lifestyle will be gone once “civilisation” catch up on them …

Encountered the Occupy mob in Edinburgh, pretty horrible bunch of people.

Caused large amounts of problems for a large amount of people, none of whom worked for the banks. Selfish, hypocrites in my experience.

Nope. Nothing to do with Mr White there but then Mr White just quicken the pace of consumption that’s all.

Yes, many people want better life only if they are trained to be consumers otherwise they might simply be content with what they already have … only for a while until they get extremely bore.

So you are saying the strive for food, an education to supply food and water in the next generation and clean living standards is a consumerist ideal?

I think you’ve shown your true colours there. Would you rather humanity didn’t exist so that the birds can carry on competing with each other until one species becomes massively dominant at the expense of the others?

Consumption drives demand, which drives the demand for labour, which creates wealth, which gives people access to food security. Once one resource become limited, demand and capitalism drives technological advancements that open new avenues for the creation of wealth.

I have no solution Yunki, I don’t even have sound on my computer to watch that, but I do try and think about what relevance and what I can do in little small parts try and do your bit? – send some cash to our local charity and watch my legs burn in the rain across Wales guys n gals! I’d really appreciate it if someone gave some cash for this hospice. cheers. http://www.justgiving.com/KevJimLonLas