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  • Are standards slipping? Less/fewer, then/than…. Being/been?!
  • alpin
    Free Member

    The problem with me starting this thread is those that it is addressed to probably don’t even know it is aimed at them….
    I know this is only a forum, but please put a little more effort into what you type.

    Twice in the same thread different people have used been instead of being… FFS.

    Then is being used more and more often when comparing instead of than.

    Less /fewer really is quite easy, but still people seem unaware of the difference.

    5thElefant
    Free Member

    If we stuck to archaic rules we might aswell speak French.

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    but please put a little more effort into what you type.

    no

    teasel
    Free Member

    I think you need to kick back and blaze one up, Alpin.

    Oh… wait…

    mikey3
    Free Member

    You need to losen up.

    5thElefant
    Free Member

    I think you need to kick back and blaze one up, Alpin.

    Oh… wait…
    😆

    seosamh77
    Free Member

    You really should read back, and edit, what you just typed. Ffs! 😆

    househusband
    Full Member

    What you should of said is…

    esselgruntfuttock
    Free Member

    Don’t loose your cool, It’s only a forum! (that one really pisses me off)

    If you want to see shite grammar & spelling, look at any fishing forum!

    One bloke today was selling his ‘real’.
    It’s an English teachers heaven/nightmare.

    whitestone
    Free Member

    +1 to the OP

    (from a miserable old pedant!)

    suburbanreuben
    Free Member

    The problem with me starting this thread is those that it is addressed to probably don’t even know it is aimed at them….

    pot… …black… 🙄

    teamhurtmore
    Free Member

    Sports commentary – why use an adverb when an adjective works just as well 😯 ?

    oldnpastit
    Full Member

    Sorry Alpin, but peak Civilization was reached in 1992. We’re now on a slow downward spiral towards societal collapse and a return to the swamp.

    Sundayjumper
    Full Member

    But sometimes an errant homonym changes the meaning and is quite amusing. I remember on a car forum someone describing how to fit a difficult part, suggesting you should “use greece” 😀

    timidwheeler
    Full Member

    Sorry OP, but that is written really bad.

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    I done it deliberately. 😛

    slackalice
    Free Member

    I’m with the OP, I likes it I do’s.

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    Less /fewer really is quite easy, but still people seem unaware of the difference.

    Go on, give us the rule.

    beej
    Full Member

    Fewer things, less stuff.

    So fewer cars, less traffic.

    Cars can be individual items. Traffic can’t be.

    Or less water, fewer raindrops.

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    I was counting on Alpin giving the rule, it’s he what said it’s easy.

    jonba
    Free Member

    Language changes. Some things sound wrong to some people but don’t change the meaning. Other things don’t sound wrong but do change the meaning.

    I wouldn’t be too bothered about less/fewer as they are becoming interchangeable. However, if you have an uncle Jack who rides horses you need to be careful.

    midlifecrashes
    Full Member

    Just seen an advert for Braun shavers on the telly. They pronounced it Brown!

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    Language changes. Some things sound wrong to some people but don’t change the meaning. Other things don’t sound wrong but do change the meaning.

    What’s the point of having grammatical rules then? Admittedly the rules did come a few hundred years after the language established itself. The joy of the exceptions.
    If I have to read a sentence twice to get the meaning, it’s wrong,

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    While we’re at it, “of” and “have”.

    Drac
    Full Member

    Just seen an advert for Braun shavers on the telly. They pronounced it Brown!

    They read yesterday’s thread where apparently you have to speak the native language of the country you’re in.

    slowoldman
    Full Member

    Just seen an advert for Braun shavers on the telly. They pronounced it Brown!

    God knows how many years it’s taken them to get that one right.

    alpin
    Free Member

    Just seen an advert for Braun shavers on the telly. They pronounced it Brown!

    That is how braun is pronounced in German, despite ‘brawn’ sounding more German.

    alpin
    Free Member

    I think you need to kick back and blaze one up, Alpin.
    Oh… wait…

    Raised a smile…. Smoke free for over four months now. Although despite being stoned on and off for the last 20 years I was still able to differentiate between less/fewer, then/than, have/of…. 8)

    flashinthepan
    Free Member

    I’m broadly with the OP

    Being/been, than/then should be right.

    But language changes and ‘accepted use’ becomes a factor. I haven’t checked but the less/fewer rule is probably now obsolete. Anyone still using ‘gay’ to mean happy, or ‘decimate’ to mean one in 10?

    aracer
    Free Member

    That’s not language changing, that’s just people being lazy and incorrect. Or are you going to suggest that a grocers’ apostrophe is now acceptable because language changes and it’s so widely used?

    anagallis_arvensis
    Full Member

    What’s the point of having grammatical rules then?

    To aid understanding. If everyone understands what less cars on the road means and its written in an internet chat bored why worry?

    funkmasterp
    Full Member

    I don’t understand how people can confuse than and then. They have completely different meanings innit. 🙂 I honestly think that auto correct and spell checkers are the reason for some of the mistakes. I always try and use the correct terms, but as long as a sentence can still be understood I don’t get too bothered by it.

    Right I’m going for a shower than once I’ve being in the shower I’m going too work wear I’ll loose the will to live 😈

    whitestone
    Free Member

    Homophones – words like “where” and “wear” “should of” instead of “should have” (should’ve) are at least understandable when used interchangeably but getting “then”,”than” and “that” mixed up is just wrong,

    On a forum like this something is written once but read many times so the onus is on the writer to be correct not the many readers to have to make mental adjustments to figure out what the writer meant to write.

    The grocer’s apostrophe: this seems be because people don’t know how to form plurals so they assume that the apostrophe covers up their lack of knowledge.

    jekkyl
    Full Member

    language is constantly in flux, no-one is wrong.

    ahwiles
    Free Member

    Pfft,

    ‘Are’ instead of ‘our’ isn’t an example of ‘flux’, it’s an example of wrongery*

    (*flux)

    Drac
    Full Member

    On a forum like this something is written once but read many times so the onus is on the writer to be correct not the many readers to have to make mental adjustments to figure out what the writer meant to write.

    I’m not sure it’ll cause readers too much mental anguish.

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    On a forum like this something is written once but read many times so the onus is on the writer to be correct not the many readers to have to make mental adjustments to figure out what the writer meant to write.

    Your right.

    captainsasquatch
    Free Member

    jekkyl – Member

    language is constantly in flux, no-one is wrong.
    🙄 Accept when you are wrong! My rule of thumb is that language can be played with, and as long as you can explain what you have done, then it’s fine. If you can’t explain, it’s a mistake. Same rule applies to foul language. Swearing is fine except when it’s the limit of your vocabulary. If you can’t express what you want in other ways, it’s wrong.

    kerley
    Free Member

    It is difficult to use ‘fewer’ incorrectly

    fewer traffic just sounds wrong and can’t imagine anyone saying that.
    “I notice there is fewer traffic today”

    Less cars sounds fine to me even if it is technically incorrect.
    “I notice there are less cars on the road today”

    Guess I have just got used to less sounding okay when misused but can’t imagine I will ever get used to fewer. Still, we all have our pain points…

    epicyclo
    Full Member

    whitestone – Member
    …(from a miserable old pedant!)

    That’s a brave thing to admit in public. Isn’t there a govt enquiry into that?

    Next you’ll be admitting to matriculating at university….

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