Moving back to London in the summer and want to be down with the kids with a singlespeed so just on the hunt for frames to build up into a tarty looking singlespeed to commute into work.
I have seen quite a few I like the look of but just with normal dropouts, I was wondering if anyone had managed to make it work with the right chainlength/chainring/SS cog and chainstay length that the tension was just right and if so is there any techniques to it? I just think a bike looks a bit poop with one of those little jockey wheel tensioners you attack to the mech hanger.
I tried it a long time ago as a kid with an old MTB and it sorrrt of worked but I had no idea what I was doing then.
Or am I more than likely going to have no luck with this?
Its easy. Buy a half link off ebay for a couple of quid, and dig out one of the old, stretched chains that for some reason everyone keeps (stored alongside your old tyres). Mix and match with a new unstretched chain and you’ll be very unlucky not to be able to get a fit.
EDIT – just tried the above link using the Inbred as an example and it shows that it shouldn’t quite work, but it did. I think if you’re close enough the chain stretch will help you get a little extra each way.
Rear mechs are not pretty but they dont have help you change gear
Who cares what it looks like it does not break or fall off which is the point
I suspect lots of faffing from you to make it look pretty but i would rather have function or looks on a bike.
If you really care get a proper SS frame 😛
It alldepends on the chainstay length.
Thold,old standard 16 3/4″ stay is hopeless at any ratio. 16 5/8 has a few possibilities, particularly 36;18 or 33;17.
As long as the chainline is OK and cogs/ring/chain is in good nick it is possible to run a far slacker chain than you’d think.
play with this ; http://eehouse.org/fixin/formfmu.php
I have filed the axle on a shimano hub (standard QR!) and used the wheel on a commuter road bike for about a year. No probs so far. Gave me a mm+ of movement which is enough as I used a gear ratio worked out with the magic gear calc.
Magic ratio is the simplest way. A well lubricated quality chain will survive without adjustment for quite a while on a road bike, but on an mtb it will get slack quicker. Not a disaster, just try one more tooth on the rear or one more on the front. A halflink is also useful, but I don’t like using them on an old chain.
This bike is still on the same chain 2 years later, but it’s now pretty loose. It generally gets dry conditions only use.
There is a calculator online for Magic Ratio, but I prefer to do my own manual calculations.
It’s even possible with belt drive.
It helps if you have a few rear cogs of different sizes, and ditto for the chainring, because that gives more possibilities.
If you want to spend some money, there’s a couple of eccentric BBs available which give a small amount of adjustment, eg Exzentriker
I have a few of those sort of things, but never had to use them because Magic Ratio does the trick.
BTW you can adjust a fixed dropout slightly if you are prepared to risk borking a frame. Just peen the edges where you want a bit more metal and relieve the other side of the dropout by filing it. You need to be very precise with this, and can end up with a stuffed frame. It’s what I had to do with the belt drive because that is far more finicky about an exact c/s length and doesn’t tolerate a little slack like a chain.
I used to run these with a magic ratio but the slightest amount of wear on the chainrings/sprockets/chain or a combination of all three meant i was fiddling with them every week and replacing chains/sprockets/chainrings on the Soulcraft and my ugly mongrel road bike on a weekly basis but i was doing upwards of 500 miles a week at the time. I eventually got fed up with my facination for a magic ratio and succombed to using a chain tensioner
Not worth the hassle imho, i have 6 middleburn uno chainrings, a multitude of rear cassette sprockets ranging from 14t to 18t and a humoungous rack of ss chains, all imperceptibly worn but too worn to work with a magic ratio.
If you are using proper singlespeed cogs and chainrings AND you have your chainline straight, your chain can have quite a lot of slack in it before it becomes a problem.
As far as wear is concerned, I generally use steel chainrings – usually Surly or On-One. They wear slower than alloy in my experience.