Where is the short travel 29er? That said I like the idea of rear travel that only makes an appearance on really big hits albeit I would look a fool mincing round my local trails on that ^^^

Gotama Eurobike…

Shandy…Eurobike

Stato…fastest bike, period, was the DH bike… the 29er/trail bikes used were very different to a GeoMetron

I have some adjustable offset clamps to test out +/- up to 9mm , I’ll be testing a 29er front wheel on some tracks and resetting the geo/BB using some offset bushes. Chris found the 29/27.5 combo was advantageous on some trails.

Okay, Chainline that 32lb downduro thing has me convinced. How much for a frame and fork combo?

Also, I’d be half tempted to run with a Boxxer World Cup dropped to 180mm to get the weight down further.

Pretty sure I could knock off a further 1.5lb off that thing. Brakes, saddle, crank and fork could all be lighter.

Tom-W1987 that saddle is only 120g 😉 Selle Italia SLR kit carbonio. Crank yes, could go lighter, I like the Hope, pedals can lose about 70g using Baldwins. Its light for what it

Ping me an email, in the profile, or I can email you…for the record, 32.3lbs so I can’t be accused of over stating it 😉 measured multiple times to eliminate errors and benchmarked the scales with known weights…

I didn’t know the boxer was lighter..you live and learn..

2585g versus 2626g for the 40. Really not much in it, plus every time you put a non-Fox fork on a Geometron, Chris Porter kills a kitten

I can’t afford one right now Chainline so I don’t want to waste your time. But I’m going to have one within the year 🙂 I really like the look of that and the dual crowns at that weight have convinced me the crazy length is worth it.

Wasn’t so interested in the single crown model because I didn’t want a bike that long with single crowns – didn’t see the point.

Out of interest, why aren’t you running an integrated stem? That’s one of the huge upsides of dual crowns!

George, if you run the stealth maxle – it’s about 80g difference, but with the right build these things add up. I reckon you could get one down to 31lb if you really really tried.

Genuinely, that’s one of the coolest builds I’ve ever seen Chainline. Really really out there that thing! 🙂

It’s made me consider one! It’s actually less specialised than the 160mm single crown model. That Fox 40 can be jacked up to 200mm for Alpine trips….and hey presto….no need for a downhill bike….175mm is enough on the back for it to ride like a DH bike for Alpine trips….given a bit of fettling with that X2.

That’s class leading – and what Enduro bikes need to evolve towards. 30lb bikes with steep seatubes, wide gear range and dual crowns.

Tom… isn’t the Maxle Stealth only for replacing 15mm QR Maxles? Boxxer has a 20mm bolted axle already.

Damnit!

What’s the benefit of running the 40 over a big 36? Is it purely stiffness? Does the smaller fork get overwhelmed?

whatnobeer I don’t know yet. after my first ride it’s clearly stiffer and more controlled but thats not a surprise. Is it material to the ride, unclear yet, obviosly the fact world class riders don’t need a 40 suggests the 36 is fine. I loved the 36 but felt I wanted to explore the 40 as a concept and see if I could bust a few stereotypes about what is a DH bike and what is a trail bike.

I can say cranked into a corner full of braking bumps the performance of the fork is is outstanding!

First test, hairpin climbs. Despatched with aplomb, unsurprisingly. Also climbed a horrendously steep loose fire road shortcut to the top of Upper Cliff at the chase and a couple of cheeky DH trails nearby prior to descending them, climbs like a goat. Certainly doesn’t feel heavy.

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Then tried Upper cliff, which feels a bit slow these days, I ran out of pedalling legs chasing more pace. It’s tricky these days when dry as the bottom is so loose, t was fun though give me upper cliff anyday of the known trails.

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This one’s just gratuitous!

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The above for Scruff. Someone did ask ” are you pedalling THAT up the hill” to which the reply was “yes, why don’t you pick it up” so he did, followed by “oh, that’s lighter than my steel hardtail!”

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I took my Banshee Legend down lower cliff once. Only once. Your downduro bike looks super.

God damnit Chainline, you’d better still be selling those 175mm Mojos in 6 months….

Turns out I know some one who has bought one of these… Not to resist the test ride urge.

have a ride. nowt to lose. At least you will know how you feel about it.

He’s a lot taller than me so not sure it’d be worth it.

Kinda depends how tall you are really. 5’10” fine for longest, roll bars back/saddle forward to suit.

The 29er has escaped and is in the wild

Mojo Nicolai Geometron G13 29er longtermer final verdict

Dunno about the pricing – they say £2350 for the frame/shcik, but £500 less for the 27.5 frame?

Aimed at Chainline since you seem to be the man in the know….. whilst the 29er seems to be in the Surrey Hills with MBR is there any chance of having a test ride on it?

I’m confused now, that reads as if it’s a fully custom frame, so why not just go direct to Nicolai, what do you get for the extra cost of it being a Geometron if it’s frame only? Also there have been 29er versions before this so what’s new?

Seems very much a none news story.

The pricing is wrong there honourablegeorge.
The std 27.5 bike is £2350, the 29er is custom order at an additional £500. (Hence the £500 less quote)

There is (likely) to be a std 29er version available from Eurobike onwards.

There are also 4 sizes available, S. M, L and XL or Long/Longer/Longest and Longesterer. the new XL with a proportionally longer ETT and reach, in the 27.5 currently.
Expect those sizes to carry over to the 29.

Full custom is still available from Nicolai and can be facilitated by either a dealer or Mojo.

Gotama, Contact Chris directly or I can find out where it is currently for you, alternatively if you are happy to cover some fuel I’m sure I can arrange to get hold of it and come do a demo with you at which point you could back to back it with my bike as well which is the same size just 27.5. Email me directly (from profile) if you’d like me to set something up for you.

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#geolution on social media, some teaser pics of the new bikes/updates for this year…

You might need to be a geek to spot the subtle changes but not the bigger ones like…the hardtail, the big wheeler… The DH proto has been under the OneVision team all year….

This is a nice blog from my Italian friend who came over to the UK to test and pick up his GeoMetron…it was a long way from what he thought he wanted originally…

http://aadm.github.io/2016-01-10-nicolai-mojo.html

Chainline what is that chainguide you have on the new bike?

Chainline, what are the frame stats for the one with “aadm” decals? It looks very long and the top tube appears to be lower than on a standard frame.

tooFATtoRIDE its a standard Small/Long. Which means a ST of 430mm. ETT is 620mm so nothing differents there.

Shandy, Chainguide is a Hope Slick Guide. Same as on the old bike.

Fast Forward looks kind of normal now

Be interests to see what Nicolai bring out. A 5inch travel 29er with this geometry appeals for messing about on.

I did see the Mojo 29er but was put off by the extra cost for the custom geometry.

BIGMAN 😀 No.1

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Do like that new headtube cabling arrangement

@chainline is that the TB with mojo geometry?

Looks perfect!

@BIGMAN tb was Helius suspension arrangement, but let’s just say in a similar ballpark. I think it’s fair to say Nicolai wholeheartedly believe in the GeoMetron geometry/setup and not not just for descent focused bikes and customers over the last year have shown they do too

So I decided to see what the fuss was about, and with lots of help from Chainline and Mudfish, I finished putting this together last night. Not ridden it in anger, yet, but it feels very normal and confortable for a pedal round the house. 31.1 lbs on my scales.

So, early days and a very short spin, but pedals amazingly, easily better than the standard Ion which was a good pedaller to begin with – seemed to find myself with extra gears everywhere, has huge traction uphill (even with a semislick on the back), it goes around tight corners no problem, and the lack of front wheel lift on steep climbs is uncanny. No feeling of being stretched out or uncomfortable whatsoeever. Didnt really get to try it properly at speed or on drops yet, but it really is brilliant at all the things you’d exect it to be no good at. Will probably need to adjust myself a little to weight the front more in corners when I do get moving at speed, but very happy boy so far.

That looks lovely, nice build too. Really looking forward to having a go in a couple of weeks although I expect its going to get expensive very quickly 😳

Which frame and wheel size is it? I’m assuming 27.5 but it looks in proportion which the 27.5s usually don’t.