I'm really interested in getting a ti frame,will be used for endurance and trail riding, mix of fox float 120's and stans 355 wheel set so there are a few suitable frames possible but the genesis look like its a quality frame for the money, as i can't afford a soda etc, or am i best waiting for the new ti 456? cheers for any input

Lad at work has one, and only bought it because it was a good staff price! He has yet to ride it!

Steve Worland of MBUK had one as a long termer iirc and really rated it.

Certainly if my 853 steel version is anything to go by, it'll be superb!

Mind you, I'd love a ti 456 too, but I'd not build it up with 120 forks and light wheels, it would have Pikes and some wider/beefier wheels for hooning about on.

http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/bikes/mountain/product/altitude-ti-frame-09-34937

Have my ti 456 for the right price

what size is your 456.very interested

18" I listed on here 2 days ago, and am open to serious offers