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  • an astute ambush
  • jam-bo
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    whoops. someones just got promoted to a desk job…

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36852365

    cranberry
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    I understand it will be called “a meeting without coffee”.

    Yak
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    Pah – a parking scuff. That’ll buff out.

    bencooper
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    That’s not fair, I bet the other ship wasn’t wearing hi-viz.

    Still, another sub in the same class managed to run into Scotland, so I guess this is an improvement.

    jam-bo
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    the russians did similar a while back. gibraltar straits are a tricky place to sneak about.

    trailofdestruction
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    Yeah, but you should see the other guy.

    Oh well, it’ll keep the lads in Barrow busy for a while 🙄

    freeagent
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    Unlikely it’ll go back to Barrow for repair – Rules/regs on Nuclear material state the subs can not return to Barrow once commissioned.

    I think it’ll need to be at least partially repaired where it is – doesn’t look seaworthy in that photo – and it certainly couldn’t dive.

    tuskaloosa
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    2001 off the coast of Hawaii the USS Greenville ended up sinking a Japanese fishing boat when rising to the surface

    GrahamS
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    How did they manage to dent that bit, but not snap the sticky up bits right next to it?

    I reckon it’s an insurance job. 😆

    ninfan
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    Is this covered by warranty?

    jam-bo
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    knock for knock?

    avdave2
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    I hope whoever was driving doesn’t put their bikes on a roof rack.

    GrahamS
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    No worries. I’ve got this…

    ocrider
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    jam bo – Member
    whoops. someones just got promoted to a desk job…

    That’s Hermes delivery driver material, right there

    Northwind
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    Two other Astute-class submarines – Astute and Artful – are in service and four more vessels – Audacious, Anson, Agamemnon and the yet to be named seventh – are in various stages of construction.

    Ran out of names beginning with A. Maybe Accidentprone?

    johnners
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    If only we fitted our £1bn subs with something they could use to detect ships.

    gobuchul
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    WTF would you name one Agamemnon?

    Agamemnon’s family history had been tarnished by rape, murder, incest, and treachery, consequences of the heinous crime perpetrated by his ancestor, Tantalus, and then of a curse placed upon Pelops, son of Tantalus, by Myrtilus, whom he had murdered. Thus misfortune hounded successive generations of the House of Atreus, until atoned by Orestes in a court of justice held jointly by humans and gods.

    His chief fault was his overwhelming haughtiness; an over-exalted opinion of his position that led him to insult Chryses and Achilles, thereby bringing great disaster upon the Greeks.

    JAG
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    johnners – exactly what I thought! How the f#king hell do you manage to not ‘see’ a bloody great big ship?????

    I do hope this Captain and his Senior staff are getting a new job pretty soon 👿

    GrahamS
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    WTF would you name one Agamemnon?

    Presumably Armageddon was already taken and this was the alternative suggestion?

    Better than RealArmageddon13673 I suppose 🙂

    kimbers
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    His chief fault was his overwhelming haughtiness; an over-exalted opinion of his position that led him to insult Chryses and Achilles, thereby bringing great disaster upon the Greeks.

    surely that makes it the perfect name for Trident

    PJM1974
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    Bit of filler, some Halfords matt black and you’d never notice.

    It happens more often than you’d think. Apparently a British nuclear boat collided with a French nuclear boat a few years back, neither realised it was anything more serious than dinging a stray container somewhere until they returned to their respective home ports.

    I wonder when they’ll start fitting subs with parking radars?

    cranberry
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    Ran out of names beginning with A. Maybe Accidentprone?

    The next series will start with HMS BumpsieDaisy

    WTF would you name one Agamemnon?

    Agamemnon was Nelson’s favourite ship. I think the Nelson connection is a bit more important than all the Greek mythology stuff.

    gobuchul
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    surely that makes it the perfect name for Trident

    No Tridents on that boat.

    Agamemnon was Nelson’s favourite ship.

    Didn’t know that. Every day a school day and all that.

    legend
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    tuskaloosa – Member
    2001 off the coast of Hawaii the USS Greenville ended up sinking a Japanese fishing boat when rising to the surface

    Our Navy dragged one down off Arran in 1990

    However the US did manage to crash into a mountain at 30 knots: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_San_Francisco_(SSN-711)#

    monkeysfeet
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    Is it a sticker?
    Mod ” hello, is that chips away?” 😆

    tomhoward
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    the yet to be named seventh

    If that isn’t named Subby McSubface, an opportunity had been missed.

    phiiiiil
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    Maybe submarine sonars are like dogs, they can’t look upwards?

    jimdubleyou
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    I think it’ll need to be at least partially repaired where it is – doesn’t look seaworthy in that photo – and it certainly couldn’t dive.

    Depends what’s in there. It’s not part of the pressure hull so it probably could dive if it needed too.

    Interestingly, these boats don’t have an optical periscope, it’s all digital – wonder if it had been a while since they took a picture.

    Either way, the skipper’s getting court martialed.

    avdave2
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    If only we fitted our £1bn subs with something they could use to detect ships.

    It’s all well and good seeing something coming towards you but when you’ve spent millions making yourself invisible you can’t expect the other guy to take the right anti collision avoidance measures 🙂

    ChrisL
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    Apparently the damaged bit is no longer known as a conning tower in the Navy, as it isn’t a pressure vessel. They’re now known as sails (UK terminology) or fins (US terminology). Online cutaways (not the most accurate source of information admittedly) suggest that they are mostly empty except for sensor masts and access to the viewing area on top. Maybe as long as the sensor masts aren’t damaged it is a relatively simple repair (by the standards of the repairs carried out on vessels designed to operate under enormous pressure in seawater and which carry nuclear reactors and precision weapons).

    legend
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    Interestingly, these boats don’t have an optical periscope, it’s all digital – wonder if it had been a while since they took a picture.

    Not really needed though, the sonar would’ve picked it up from a long way away

    jimdubleyou
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    Not really needed, the sonar would’ve picked it up from a long way away

    I’ve not seen a fancy modern sonar in action – do they plot all the contacts for you?

    onehundredthidiot
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    A “hats on discussion”.

    legend
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    Maybe as long as the sensor masts aren’t damaged it is a relatively simple repair (by the standards of the repairs carried out on vessels designed to operate under enormous pressure in seawater and which carry nuclear reactors and precision weapons).

    even then, they’ll just pull them out and put in spares so not a huge problem (at submarine level)

    scotroutes
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    Is standing on the deck the Navys equivalent of the naughty thinking step?

    trailofdestruction
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    I think it’ll need to be at least partially repaired where it is

    househusband
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    What’s interesting is that, so far, the other ‘merchant vessel’ (a tanker) has not been named; I find this strange as does another friend in the maritime world – I’m former Merchant Navy.

    Bearing in mind that the sub was on exercise at the time it makes me wonder of the other vessel was an RFA tanker; this wouldn’t be the first time that RN subs have got too close to the underside of an RFA. Might explain why there’s been no mention of the name of the ‘merchant vessel’ (which RFA’s are) as that would be even more embarrassing…

    jam-bo
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    I think they probably knew exactly where the ship they hit was. right above them. Probably practicing sneaking in the med under the cover of a noisy vessel. The area is notorious for large internal waves which would be like a rollercoaster in a sub if you get hit by one.

    househusband
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    Probably practicing sneaking in the med under the cover of a noisy vessel.

    Undoubtedly doing just that – no doubt I was above subs numerous times when I was in the RFA many moons ago; I just find it strange that the other vessel is as yet anonymous.

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