Ahhhhhh dual crown forks: run awayyyyyyy
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All Mountain, Freeride - what bike.....
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Posted 2 years ago #
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Why mikey?
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Nicolai helius AM.
There is nothing else
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Because they are completely unecessary: Even free-ride bikes are moving away from dual-crown forks.
I'll admit that I am adverse to them partly because they look stupid on what are effectively big xc bikes, but also I have chatted to a number of bike mechanics about them and the concensus is that because they are dual-crowns people treat them as free-ride or dh forks, rather than the light-weight xc forks they are, and end up breaking them (and themselves).
With the amazing stiffness of modern single-crowns, IMO dual crown forks are completely unecessary.
There are also other issues with the sheer size of them, the turning circle, potentially damaging the frame in an accident, but these probably exist in my head
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structurally, those E150's make lots of sense. They're great. stiffer for the same weight, or lighter for the same stiffness, Vs single crowns.Simple laws of physics innit.
i demo'd an enduro with E150's and was blown away by how stiff and precise they were.
but we think they look weird, we look at them and think 'Dh forks'.
so they haven't really caught on, which is a shame. cos they work very well.
And they don't affect your turning circle, if you need to turn the bars enough for it to be a problem then you're doing it wrong. i got on fine with boxxers in verbier (full of uber tight switchbacks). and i'm rubbish.
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I'd stay away from those Commencals: They are very flexy, and break too.
Yawwwn again. I have a meta 5.5 and locked out the back end isn't much more flexible than my HJ. And as for the 'they brake' they have a smaller failure rate than cotic.
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Remedy for sure, mines been all over trail centres, deux alpes and dh trails as well as natural singletrack, copes with all perfectly, best ride I've had over 15 yrs of riding, ridden plenty of diff types and this one ticks all boxes, love it! Climbs well, descends better
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Funnily enough, I know quite a few people who have broken Commencals.
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I've know more broken Commencals than none broken ones.
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Commencals are lovely bikes, the contact system is a thing of beauty. Unfortunately they break and have a reputation for breaking. They are worth next to nowt second hand, I wouldn't buy another.
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I have a 2007 Meta 5.5, so does a mate. Another two have 2008 models and after 2+ years of riding in the alp, scotland, wales etc none have broke.
They are a seriously fun bike for the money/travel. Guess they are just not cool anymore!
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Meta 5s are a great bike but they do definitely have a higher than average failure rate. Probably still not likely to be a problem but it was enough to put me off buying one.
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I guess if your after a "freeride" bike there are tougher options out there.
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Guess they are just not cool anymore!
Yes it must be that. I have seen 2 broken commencal. One meta 6 broke by olive (as said in previous thread he has broke everything. From RM7 to stinky going through a race face turbine crank set). The second is a mini DH. The owner lent his bike to a friend of his very tall. Tall friend only leaves 2 cm of seat post inside the seat tube and start jumping and all. That's it. in no particular orders:
François (LBS owner one) owns a meta 5
Conan owns a meta 5
Remy own a meta 5 carbon
Olive owns a meta 5 carbone (not broken yet) and a mini DH
Olivier (another one) owns a meta 6
Gerard owns a meta 5
Michel owns françois previous meta 6
Phillip owns a meta 5
I own remy's previous meta 5
Floriant owns a meta 6
From the top of my head that's all. Bikes go through this type of treatment twice a week on average.
http://www.megavideo.com/?v=KZPB6652
and then that
http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-look-what-ive-found-on-the-tinterweb
None have broken yet...Posted 2 years ago # -
2008 meta 5 here, great bike. It was mostly the 2009 models which broke wasn't it?
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Its nothing to do with "being cool".
They're not cheap frames and the 09 Metas had a massive failure rate compared to the competition. Like I said I really enjoyed mine but the second hand value is abysmal. I had the Meta frame 2 years and sold it for 20% of the new price - that is a big kick in the balls when you are funding a replacement.
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Tranny v 516Out of these two I am fancying the tranny
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My meta 6 is fantastic and no breaks yet...but I ride like a girl
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yeti asr 7 with the new fox 180mm (talas)
i am seriously considering one of these especailly when the french importer waved one in front of me!!!!
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i am seriously considering one of these especailly when the french importer waved one in front of me!!!!
LOL why am I not surprised Poulet will do something like that ...
RHS right you have the right bike for the job So now get your ass down here... That's an order in case you haven't noticed
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