The main problem I have with stories of 'little green aliens' is why would they bother coming here just to have a nose around?
To see how their experiment worked out ???
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Aliens and UFOs - do you think they're really here?
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it wasn't that long ago that people thought the Earth was flat
Urban Myth. Even Bronze Age people knew the world was a sphere.
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Definitely.
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the 'right' distance from the sun to promote life
There is life on earth at the bottom of the deepest oceans, . . where no light penetrates at all
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MF - but in an infinite universe the improbable is certain to happen
Agreed, but we are talking about two infinites here - space and time. Put simply, take two people stood on a 1 million mile long road, given enough time they will walk past each other. Put those two people in a large field of an equivalent size, they will take much longer to walk past each other because they can walk in more than two directions. They will eventually pass each other but there is just more chance of it not happening.Posted 2 years ago # -
The Fermi paradox discusses why if there are aliens out there that we have not been contacted.
Because we are insignificant? 'They' don't know we exist? There could be billions of civilisations out there.
The drake equation simply states that in an infinite universe there must be other life no matter how rare but that they tend to destroy themselves before we get to know about them
But it's all a bunch of theories isn't it? It's impossible, given that space is infinate, to prove that other life forms don't exist.
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why would they bother coming here just to have a nose around?
Why do we try to get to the bottom of the ocean or to the top of mountains or to the North or South poles, or the moon, or Mars or etc.....
I mean if they do exist it seems likely they they are as far away from anything as we are, not exactly tripping over other life, so I would be inclined to believe they would be interested in us, certainly it's got to be at least as likely as them not being interested in taking a look at us more closely.
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You know it . . .
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The Southern Yeti: If it's made it here, why has it only made itself known to dumb hick yanks?
cos they are teasers.
teasers fly around the galaxy looking for planets that havent made intersteller contact yet, and find someone that no one will believe and strut up and down in front of them making 'beep beep' noises.
rather childish really.
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"Perhaps we do 'know it all' and really can't travel at the speed of light, or perhaps we think we know it all, but we don't know jack."
We can't travel at the speed of light or faster. Simple as, this isn't supposotion,shamanism,superstition or sci-fi plot hole filling. This is fact. To do so would require an infinite amount of energy, and no matter how much we can produce or how cleverly we can produce it. it wouldn't be enough as we can't produce an infinite amount. Whether people understand the math and the theory and believe that or not is an irrelevance, it's true.:)
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Aliens & UFOs ?
Do they exist ... I'm sure of it...
Are they here ?
What ........ on this forum ?
Quite possibly reading some of the threads
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but in an infinite universe the improbable is certain to happen
Doesn't that only apply to stochastic processes ?
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Some people take far too many drugs, others are just dumb hick yanks, and a few, need to be institutionalised.
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The folks that try to reason with science that ‘there are no other life forms’, ‘proximity to the sun’, etc need to take a step outside the box, anything is possible and it doesn’t have to be constrained by physics or biological make up.
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If it's made it here, why has it only made itself known to dumb hick yanks?
Just be careful riding in Calderdale
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Whether people understand the math and the theory and believe that or not is an irrelevance, it's true.:)
But aren't many of the components of these theories hypotheticals which, with our current technology and understanding, cannot be experimentally verified ?
Surely there are sufficient gaps in "the scientists" current description of observed phenomena for there to be reasonable doubts about their ability to accurately predict all the unobserved ones ....
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The best we can say is that it might be possible to find a way to circumnavigate the physical constraints that we have so far observed, but you wouldn't want to bet a lot of money on it.
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I prefer to agree with the creationists on this - but replace "god" with "an alien bloke in a lab" and surmise that we are actually a virus in a petri dish and our total span of evolution is actually the time it's taken him/her/it to set up an experiment, go get a cup of coffee and have a quick look on alientrackworld while their boss is in a meeting. This leads ultimately to one of 3 destinies for us :
1) We'll be a successful virus and will be given the means to infect other planets and solar systems as a means of biological warfare
2) The boss will come out of a meeting and explain that funding has been cut and we'll get thrown into the incinerator
3) The alien bloke will drop his morning eclair into the petri dish a la Robbie Coltrane in the Young ones and we'll all die under a flood of whipped creamSo in summary, yes there probably is life out there
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"But aren't many of the components of these theories hypotheticals which, with our current technology and understanding, cannot be experimentally verified ?"
If you are talking about elementary derivation of the equivalence of mass and energy, to a degree the Lorentz transformation and absolutely velocity,(which I was) no they are pretty much all proven with approximately 100 years of supporting repeated observation and evidence, which is about as confirmed as you can get, and more than good enough for me to work with:)
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Do I believe there is intelligent life out there: Yes
Do I believe aliens are among us: NoPosted 2 years ago # -
Funny thing is, while on this single planet we have things that look like this:
Aliens are always depicted as looking something like this:
I suspect they probably don't
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The drake equation simply states that in an infinite universe there must be other life no matter how rare but that they tend to destroy themselves before we get to know about them
Does it? I don't think so.
Also where has this talk of space and time being infinite come from?
Jahwomble seems to be the only person with a clue on this thread.
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WTF sort of mole is that?
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Ta very much indeed retro:) mind you I've wandered quite a way of topic now, so I'll shut up.
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What's the thing above it Dez?
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Sea slug of some sort. Far more interesting than aliens from another planet eh?
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We are currently surrounded by a bubble 60 or so light years in diameter. There are a lot of stars within that and therefore if an alien race could travel just under the speed of light and were only 4 light years away they could have started popping up in the late 1940's had they detected the first high power TV transmissions or atmospheric atomic blasts.
It could also be coincidence that once science put rockets into the air and gave us supersonic secret aircraft that elves, pixies and fairies became aliens
Either way you have an explanantion.
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Star nosed moles are brilliant especially when you can see their nose tendrils or whatever they are flapping about.:)
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It could also be coincidence that once science put rockets into the air and gave us supersonic secret aircraft that elves, pixies and fairies became aliens
Either way you have an explanantion
I've read that 4 times and still it doesn't make sense.
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Indeed, and real too!
Right so lets gat back onto whether or not God exists.
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I'm with Calvin on this one,
"The surest sign that intelligent life exists elsewhere in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us".
Matt
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had they detected the first high power TV transmissions or atmospheric atomic blasts.
Which assumes another lifeform, even if it is scanning for signs of life, has a tool to pick up such activity.Posted 2 years ago # -
I suspect they probably don't
I'm still hoping they do look like Zoe Saldana nevertheless.
It's more likely they look like klingons and have big pasties stuck to their heads and say things like 'We could copulate but I'm not sure what your pleasure thresholds are'Posted 2 years ago #
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