Does anyone else feel that recently there have been lots of for sale adds with ono on the end of the price, but in reality the seller’s will only except the full list price,or in some cases not even reply with a counter offer.

If you don’t want offers don’t put ono

Rant over

Sometimes an offer is so low I don’t to bother to reply. If the offer is near to what i would like i’ll make a counter offer. cheeky offers are ok but when the offer comes from someone asking high for there own parts they can look somewhere else 🙂

I genraly advertise slightly high expecting the old haggle war on some stuff i will sell it for peanuts if its sat doing nothing I sold a set of brakes for £28 posted. because I’drather see them used.

But if some ones advertising a frame at Say £400ono and i offer them £300 thats my lowest offer its only going to go up and i make it clear i know its a cheeky offer, in these cases i’d probably be looking at a counter offer of maybe £20 knocked of which might just sell it to me.

i was looking at a frame yesterday and would literary have picked it up in cash with in 30 mins of contacting. But the seller not only contacted me but then said actually i don’t want to sell it for the advertised price and upped the price. by around £150

bad etiquette in my oppinion

That’s pretty crap, but if he feels he has genuinely underestimated how much its worth then he should apologise to those who have shown intrest & explain this. If he’s just gauging intrest with a low price, luring folk in before pulling this stunt then he should be taken from behind by a rampant bull.

Advertising high seems worse to me than someone not excepting an offer they think is too low, why not offer the lower price first it’s more in the spirit of the classifieds.

“Spirit of the Classifieds”? Are you having a giraffe?

The problem with advertising ‘ONO’ is that it is effectively advertising without a price, something that is against forum rules nevermind the (mythical) ‘spirit of the classifieds’.

If I offer something as £1ono, the only thing you know about the price is that I will take less than £1. But you don’t know how much.

So either advertise a firm price and stick to it or an optimistic price and negotiate from it. One thing is sure, it is very hard for a seller to negotiate the price upwards if they start too low.

I always thought that the price was what you wanted but your open to sensible offers or are willing to negotiate something to suit you and the potential buyer.

If I advertised something at £400ono and someone offered me £350 I’d come back and say £380. I’d always advertise at the highest i think i could possibly get, unless as said above i am no longer using then i’m happy for a fellow cyclist to have a mega bargain.

Likewise I end up advertising everything with ONO. Had a mate who was selling a sailing dinghy he wanted rid off. He advertised at the lowest price he was willing to let it go at and the price was the price (ie. no ONO). Needless to say no one seemed to realise this and all came with silly offers. In the end he sold it at ‘the price’ to one of the chancers….I tend to use ONO to advertise the “I know it’s not worth what I’m asking but you’re all going to try and haggle anyway so it’s been over-inflated!”

I also (tried) bought something off this site. It was a frame and forks that had been advertised on and off for about a year. I agreed a price with the guy and everything and then he came back and said no I actually don’t want to sell it any more (despite having advertised it a few times including replying to wanted ads). Needless to say I was not impressed!

Oli.

Lets not forget, ONO is an acronym for Or Near Offer. if you say 400 ono for a frame and someone comes in at £300, that, to me at least, isn’t an ONO.

I have no worries about the use of ONO; I do it myself. I sometimes even use OVNO to let people know that cheeky offers will not be considered so don’t bother.

I don’t see what the problem is. ‘ONO’ is a term that’s been used for years and years, everyone knows what it means.
some people urgently need a sense of perspective.

Ditto the last two posters, i don’t get the problem.
ONO means NEAR!
If i posted £400 ONO and someone offered £300 i’d ignore them completely.

It’s got to be better than “what’s your best price?”

They might as well say “I can’t negotiate, so I want you to do it for me”

Should anyone ask ‘best price’ I always add 25%. That makes it much better to me.

I take “or nearest offer” for granted tbh, unless it says “no offers” I always make an offer (and tbh I assume the price was designed to take that into account)

Yep I use ONO as I am happy for someone to offer as I may have got the price wrong. After all I only know what I think it’s worth and could be right, or very wrong.

I think it’s fine and means the seller is happy to have a chat on the price if too steep!

“spirit of the classifieds” has died, it’s commercial venture now to bring in more hits for advertisers pure and simple.

At least have the guts to say it like it is, instead of pretending its a classified for the community.

“spirit of the classifieds” has died, it’s commercial venture now to bring in more hits for advertisers pure and simple.

No it’s really not.

We are regularly dealing with people on there who break what we class as the spirit, funnily reported by members of the forum on most occasions.

There are tubes in the world and some of them are on stw classifieds.

“What’s your best price” = quickest way to spot a time waster.

So Drac, when I posted that, I went to the classified and checked out the post history of the top (of the page) 8 threads. These were posted by “itlightike, richi0082, the ocb, pedalphile, astura, R7ctr, reluctant, and kazafaza”, all except for reluctant , have never posted anything except stuff on the classfieds (going by there 1st page history), how are they adding to the spirit?
Then to add insult the “site”, has decided that no one except the sellers can post in there (your right, I don’t criticize that). Don’t tell me this was in the spirit of the forum.
Commercialism, pure and simple.

The spirit is to sell stuff for none profit, to sell as you want rid of it for a fair price or because someone may be offering one. We understand that there’s those that only use classifieds and have discussed this several times, we’ve not yet found a solution we consider fair. Of course the classified pulls in people which equals hits but that’s why it was created.

I acknowledge that, but the new classified rule goes against this ‘spirit’ by giving the sellers carte blanche IMO. If anything a rule telling seller that they will be judged by the ‘forum’ & removing the seller right to report would be more in spirit (they don’t pay to use it, & other places to sell stuff are available).
I accept that it is ‘your’ forum & is difficult to moderate @ the best of times, even with ‘our’ help/hindrance, but struggle with the new rule adding to the spirit
(moan over)

i was looking at a frame yesterday and would literary have picked it up in cash with in 30 mins of contacting. But the seller not only contacted me but then said actually i don’t want to sell it for the advertised price and upped the price. by around £150

So really you’re not moaning about those who put ONO after their prices but those who don’t/won’t sell for the price advertised.

Ono is a long used, tried, tested and accepted way of saying “make me an offer & I may (or may not) accept it”. If someone doesn’t accept your offer then tough… why not contact them & tell the seller how you feel; tell them you’re keen (if you really are), explain you’re open to negotiation etc.

Mildred I’m not bother so much about that as that’s a whole different matter. (sorry to bring that in and confuse things)

It just really annoys me when people put ONO,but then don’t reply,not even a no thanks. Most people accept there is some haggling to be done in there adds and everyone is after a bargain. but haggling goes both ways not just the seller coming down,but the buyer coming up.

For example you wouldn’t go to a used car sales man and give him list price, you know what you want to pay and you know what they want you to pay. so you start low and move up to your max.

TBH – I get fed up with folk making offers and then not following them up!

And regularly ignoring such reports too.

It just really annoys me when people put ONO,but then don’t reply,not even a no thanks. Most people accept there is some haggling to be done in there adds and everyone is after a bargain. but haggling goes both ways not just the seller coming down,but the buyer coming up.

Rather than an issue with the classifieds or the use of ONO, I think this is more an indicator of basic manners. If someone emails me then I’ll endeavour to reply promptly. Sometimes I’m busy, sometimes I don’t receive an email until I discover it in spam some days later, but I will reply to everyone who contacts me. I view that as basic manners; to not reply to someone is fairly rude.

Again, I think the use of ONO is fine, but bad manners I can so without.