Interesting reading on the anniversary

RIP to all lives lost

Deeply sceptical of those peddling books on shocking subjects…

Not really

I watched the 9/11 programme on 4 last night. The footage of the 2nd plane hitting the tower, in particular, is still as shocking as it was at the time

911000?

818.181818 recurring, surely?

Deeply sceptical of those peddling books on shocking subjects…

Where in the article is he peddling books?

It’s those peddling wars you have to worry about…

I thought this was going to be about a Porsche rally 🙁

I was expecting Porsches too 🙁

Not often I agree with JHJ but I do think there is some truth in what that article says.

Giving your population a common enemy and something to fear is a good way to maintain control and pass laws or actions that would be rejected in “peace time”.

9/11 was an atrocity but I remember people calling for nukes to be used in retaliation to “turn the desert to glass” – for those people a thousand 9/11s is entirely justified 🙁

well spotted great ape that surely can’t be a coincidence.

Eighty-one is the square of 9 and the fourth power of 3. Like all powers of three, 81 is a perfect totient number. It is a heptagonal number and a centered octagonal number. It is also a tribonacci number, and an open meandric number. 81 is the ninth member of the Mian-Chowla sequence.

In base 10, it is a Harshad number, and one of three non-trivial numbers (the other two are 1458 and 1729) which, when its digits are added together, produces a sum which, when multiplied by its reversed self, yields the original number:

8 + 1 = 9
9 × 9 = 81

818 is also an area code in california

“The Valley” — the San Fernando Valley that encompasses the northern portion of the City of Los Angeles (although it constantly wants to secede). Known for Valley Girls (“yeah, like gag me with a spoon… as if!”), the Galleria and a climate significantly hotter than the other side of the hill and thus rivaling Hell. Also the porn capital of the Western Hemisphere.

should keep jivebunny busy for a while

Exactly, and that’s why only a blind and would fail to see the link between the two.

a link between 8 and 1?

7? as in 7/7?

Makes you think…

Remember….it was the USA that was responsible for 9/11.

Remember….it was the USA that was responsible for 9/11.

Well, I’m convinced.

The thing with 9/11 is there is no way the fuel in the planes could have caused that much damage, however when you add in all the chemicals the planes were carrying to create chem trails then it becomes much more probable.

Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams

And you can’t light petrol by dropping a lit fag on it. So you really do have to question the “official” version of events.

What about fire?

Planes cannot slice through steel and concrete so the commentator tells me as I watch a plane slice through steel and concrete…makes you think eh

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Dl5jIdtdk[/video]

Loons who try to deny any planes hit the towers are a sorry reflection on how decades of lies by governments can lead to complete mistrust of reality.

Speaking of planes not hitting towers, WTC7 didn’t even need any jet fuel…

😆

Junkyard – lazarus

Planes cannot slice through steel and concrete so the commentator tells me as I watch a plane slice through steel and concrete…makes you think eh
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5Dl5jIdtdk[/video]

What’s the debunk for the second point he makes? Video processing artifact?

Edit: nothing as clever as that, the narrator on the video is obviously a moron with no knowledge of the layout of the area:

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sc3oSyCkU8[/video]

As some one who used to work in WTC 2 in the mid to late 90’s and knows people who were directly affected by this it always amuses me when these threads come up, the things some of you guys do to amuse yourselves.

I think South Park covered this much better than any of you conspiracy nuts, who seemed to have multiplied in numbers since easy access to hi resolution camera phones put a stop to UFO and Big Foot stories.

Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams

And you can’t light petrol by dropping a lit fag on it. So you really do have to question the “official” version of events.

What about fire?

The official report is flawed but ‘proper’ experts worked out the reason for the hot, hot heat and explosions which led to the towers collapse. Sadly the official report wasn’t altered to include the probable cause as it would have made the writers of the original report look a bit stoopid.

It was a massive mistake going into Afghanistan – I assume the west knew the position of the al-qaeda training camps so why did they just not use their hi-tech weaponry to target them and make a show of strength without the huge civilian casualties than have since resulted?

I bet the long term consequences of that action would have been widely better than were we are now.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing but I was of the same opinion at the start of that war, and I am not some left-wing, Corbyn-loving, goddam pinko…

Loons who try to deny any planes hit the towers are a sorry reflection…

Some folk will beleive any old claptrap. Loons, eh?

Some reptilians seem to miss the satirical nature of these threads.

JHJ does seem to be talking sense this time. It’s not really a conspiracy theory to note that innocent people get killed when you go to war, and 9/11 was used as the basis for starting a lot of recent fighting.

The fighting has tended only to recruit more to the terrorist’s ranks, unsurprisingly. But hey, at least the governments involved can be seen to be “doing something”.

“Hi there, I have no real clue what I’m talking about or have I ever studied anything relevant to building collapse or a jet careering into the side of a building that was never meant to withstand a plane full of fuel – but I made a video about it because I have no problem trampling over people’s grief in the search for (my moronic) truth”

It’s not a game of “who has it worse” and perhaps if everyone put as much effort into realising this and treating everyone equally we wouldn’t have to mark any atrocities with an anniversary

so you all saying… Porsche conspired to bring down the two towers to boost 9/11 sales once a year?

Rip to all lives lost

I do hope some of the lives lost rest in absolute agony actually.

Loons who try to deny any planes hit the towers are a sorry reflection on how decades of lies by governments can lead to complete mistrust of reality.

So you have somehow found a way of blaming “Governments” for conspiracy loons making up random shit and passing it off as fact.

Genius 🙄

Well the US government has lied about the Apollo Moon landing, the origin of AIDS, alien abductions, chemtrails, and whether Elvis is still alive, so it’s hardly surprising that there now exists mistrust.

So you have somehow found a way of blaming “Governments” for conspiracy loons making up random shit and passing it off as fact.

I think he said they helped fan the flames by pedalling lies
Some folk just dont trust anything “official”

I dont think it is an unreasonable point

Well the US government has lied about the Apollo Moon landing,

I’m not even sure the moon really exists

The Moon definitely exists. It’s from there that the reptilian humanoids control our minds.