As mate of mine was in turkey on business last week and came across the pack of biscuits below. Are you now going to accuse turkey of being racist...?
As mate of mine was in turkey on business last week and came across the pack of biscuits below. Are you now going to accuse turkey of being racist...?
You could have chosen from half a dozen Spanish products to highlight your racist attitudes too. It's using "negro" and "Patrice Evra" in the same post that makes you racist, Loddrik.
Funny, because i've found Turk's to be quite rascist.
(disclaimer: not all Turk's are rascist)
what's his username on here? didn't know he worked in I.T. and rode mtb's on his day off.
I'm not sure it's a good idea to drag all this up again. It was unpleasant enough the last time.
That is acceptable as it's in it's country of origin (or at least where they are sold) however if they were to appear on the shelves in your local Tesco/Asda/Sainsbury/Aldi etc I reckon it may well make the papers.
It's all about being socially aware & correct
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*flutters eyelashes at DD*
it's all about context. if someone hit patrice evra in the face with a packet of said biscuits it might be seen as slightly more confrontational than stocking them in a supermarket.
*flutters eyelashes at DD*
*Swoons*
if someone hit patrice evra in the face with a packet of said biscuits it might be seen as slightly more confrontational than stocking them in a supermarket.
Is it more confrontational than hitting him in the face with a packet of chocolate digestives?
I don't know what negro means in Turkish but I do know there is a chain of electrical stores called Arcelic.
It's owned by Koc (who make the Beko appliances).
When one makes one's Confirmation in Ireland, one wears a suit. I made mine in lets see, would have been around 82 or 83? I wore a rather dashing dark brown pair of trousers and a tweedy style sports jacket in a lighter brown colour. I looked quite the part let me tell you.
I remember in the clothes shop when my mum was talking to the chap who was measuring me up asking what colour the trousers were. He replied "Nigger Brown". So, when mates were asking what I was going to be wearing for my confirmation suit, I would tell them, "a nigger brown pair of trousers and light brown tweed sports jacket".
Ashamed to this day.
looked like a new brand of forks at a glance ..
Is it more confrontational than hitting him in the face with a packet of chocolate digestives?
Depends if they were dark chocolate digestives...
As mate of mine was in turkey on business last week and came across the pack of biscuits below
Ahhhh a game of soggy biscuit is always a good one to seal the deal with a business partner.
yes repeatedly calling some one negro whilst nipping him in a confrontational manner is no worse than naming a biscuit in a foreign country...why not get yourself down to one of the ethnically mixed communities in your broad minded city and start calling Black people negro- post up the video of how it went
FFS suarez is almost definitely not a racist but to try and defend what he did/said takes some seriously Liverpool shaped filters of perception.
Mocking the victim of this is another example of that great scouse sense of humour
Marvelous
Question is - is Luis Suarez a spanish speaker using the word negro in a conversation in spanish initiated by Patric Evra in spanish in the UK racist? I dont think it is.
JY - is there any evidence of that happening other than Patrice Evra saying it happened?
Mocking the victim of this is another example of that great scouse sense of humour
Marvelous
It's OK, the OP will be off out soon to knick some alloys...
FFS suarez is almost definitely not a racist
despite admitting fouling someone 'because you are black' then claiming ' i don't talk to blacks' ???????????
it's possible that i may need to re evaluate my definition of racism.
but i don't think so.
I thought it was ok to use the word negro ? it`s not in the OED as being offensive
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it's possible that i may need to re evaluate mydefinition of racismunderstanding about this all being better off concluded.
FTFY.
There was an enquiry and a 114 page report SBZ- got a bit of news coverage iirc - did you not read it on the Liverpool blogs
I dont think he is a racist either but he did use racist language
The support, the excuses, the "apology/acceptance" has belittled your great club tbh, shuould have been more like
Suarez did not realise that this would be construed as racist in this country. He is not a racist but he accepts that the word is wholly inappropriate to use in this country evern though it is not considered offensive in his own country,. He apologises unreservedly or any offence caused, will not repeat the mistake and has apologised personally to Evra"
Might have been a more honest and classier reply rather than what he/pool did do leading to him being called an unreliable witness, which is posh for liar.
We probably would not still be talking about it. #Loyalty to your club is admirable, blind loyalty is not
@trail monkey i dont doubt he was using racist language but he was doing it to wind up an opponent rather than because he is a racist
the OP will be off out soon to knick some alloys..
My sides my sides.....
I read every word of the report and didnt see a single shred of evidence. It was one persons word against another and judged upon balance of probability. You probably think that I'm a **** doesnt make it true based on your thoughts though does it....
yes repeatedly calling some one negro whilst nipping him in a confrontational manner
I have read a couple of reports that indicate he only said it once. I cant reference them unfortunately but they indicated that each succesive telling of the story by Evra was misconstrued. I understand Evra confirmed this in an interview he gave in France. If I can find it I will post a link.
What does "nipping him a confrontational manner" mean?
It's OK, the OP will be off out soon to knick some alloys...
nope, I'll be learning how to spell correctly...
The whole thing was flawed and nobody comes out of this looking good. I think a great deal of harm has been done to Suarez's reputation based on very flimsy (or non existent) evidence. He shouldnt have this hanging over his head IMO
lol @ surfer. Both sides confirmed what was said.
Might have been a more honest and classier reply rather than what he/pool did do leading to him being called an unreliable witness, which is posh for liar.
Evra was allowed to give evidence whilst watching footage of the incident. He was able to comment as each confrontation occured on the screen.
Suraez was asked to explain what happened without that benefit. This I understand was what gave rise to the "unreliable witness" allegation.
I read every word of the report and didnt see a single shred of evidence. It was one persons word against another and judged upon balance of probability. You probably think that I'm a **** doesnt make it true based on your thoughts though does it....
This^^ is my feeling on the matter, the FA used this as a stick to beat FIFA with, Suarez was convenient.
I await to see what happens with John Terry(the chap that called Ledley King a Lippy Black monkey in 2006 and called Anton Ferdinand a Black C*nt), as the court has to prove beyond reasonable doubt he was guilty, unlike Suarez, where probability was good enough, now if he gets off in court, I firmly believe the FA will let it slide, even though they only look for "probability" they will let it pass, although if they are to be fair they should try him under their rules..
Now this is all I've read on it, and if true I find it pretty amazing that anyone can think he is not a racist.
Copied from the telegraph link below.
The row
In the 62nd minute, Suárez wins a corner and jogs into the United area, where he is being marked by Evra. The two players then become involved in a heated argument, in Spanish:
PE: F------ hell, why did you kick me?
LS: Because you’re black.
PE: Say it to me again, I’m going to kick you.
LS: I don’t speak to blacks.
PE: OK, now I think I’m going to punch you.
LS: OK, blackie, blackie, blackie.
Source surfer for this claim - preferably with the fa accepting it as true ..new to me
SBZ he admits saying the word negro to evra so it is not one mans word against another SBZ they both agree he said it. much of his defence was that this word is not racist
Are you sure you read the report?
EDIT:here is the report for all those claiming to have read it and say it is one mans word against another FFS he admits he said it this is not in dispute - he even mounts a defence based on why it not racist
The whole thing was flawed and nobody comes out of this looking good. I think a great deal of harm has been done to Suarez's reputation based on very flimsy (or non existent) evidence. He shouldnt have this hanging over his head IMOlol - are you serious? Suarez is a cheating, biting, diving shithouse. He has no reputation, which is precisely the point why many Liverpool fans feel he got short shrift from the FA - they took his previous character into account when maybe they shouldn't have.
JY - Yes I did read it. What racist connotation does negro have in spanish?
G_L - why didnt they take Evra's previous misdemeanors into account? Big deal, Suarez does what he has to win, but that doesnt make him racist. Anyone remember Solskjaer and his deliberate professional foul on someone who was clean through on goal to ensure that Man Utd won the title back in the 90s? ...
Or indeed Neville Southall's repeated sendings off for catching the ball when outside his penalty area?
those damn continental biscuits have a lot to answer for...
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