all the stuff I’ve seen that the truth movement put forward is tenuous at best. I’m not saying i believe the official version of events entirely but the vast majority of the footage that I’ve seen that the truthers claim proves beyond doubt their version of events do no such thing. they offer an alternative view, but no proof. certainly no more proof than the official line. also, they tend to use a lot of smoke and mirrors. they tell you they are going to show you some proof then give their opinion voiced over a video that generally shows no such thing.
the line that the twin towers were brought down from the bottom with large explosions. yet in none of the footage do they ever show movement below the impact areas.
also, they say that the towers were demolished. and they often state that to bring them down would have taken alot of planning and time to implement, but at no point has anyone ever said how they placed the charges without anyone noticing.
i do agree that the official version of events about the pentagon is a bit dubious.

Classic smoke and mirrors.

It did a good job.
For the record I like a good conspiracy theory as much as the next man. This one just doesn’t hold much water for me.

the line that the twin towers were brought down from the bottom with large explosions. yet in none of the footage do they ever show movement below the impact areas.

Yup. I really love the conspiracy theorist’s mindset, that looks for ideas- any ideas- that can discredit the official line, but doesn’t test their own ideas. And further, doesn’t care if the ideas they think discredit the official line are contradictory, that’s the best bit.

For example- the nano-thermite-bollocks. Twin Towers were brought down by controlled detonation, they said. But how come more people didn’t notice explosions? Oh, well, they used thermite, that doesn’t cause an explosion. But then, someone else says “But look, seismograph traces that we can pretend show explosions!” and the thermite guys go “Yeah! Nanothermite causes explosions!” The 2 are competing theories but people are happy to believe in both because they both “refute” the official story.

And another… “The buildings fell at the speed of free fall”. Well, actually they didn’t, and that’s unmissable when you watch the videos, but hey. “The reason for this is that they were brought down by explosions”- but a controlled demolition still can’t bring a building down at the speed of freefall.

The conspiracy theories are dull but the theorist mindset is pretty fascinating I reckon.

Setting a position before looking properly at facts is hardly the preserve of conspiracy theorists, whoever they are. That, for example, is exactly what UK and US did before hundreds of thousands of people got killed in an illegal war. They even put forward an elaborate conspiracy theory to suit their ends – so why are they not lumped into the “conspiracy theory” category?

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True the higss bosson and all that is nothing but a search for something we “believe” in as was DNA

Not holding out for a noble prize for any truther any time soon though 😀

I think it’s actually worse than that.

They have a set of circumstances, which they Want to disagree with, just because that’s the official line.

They then pick at every thread of it, not really looking for any proof of their own theory, just to discredit someone else’s story.

That’s why the “truthers” always end up contradicting themselves and each other.

Because “truthers” don’t a really have a theory, just clutching at straws trying to prove that it absolutely didn’t happen the way “They” said it did.

(Is keasea (and the sunshine band) serving a ban currently ? Hard to imagine he would miss out on this thread otherwise !)