Riding repeatedly back to back you might notice depending on how sensitive you are to such things, but in a one off blind test probably not, but it’s not just about the actual material, is the current Inbred any different with respect to tube diameters*, joint type/location**, butting profiles*** etc. as those physical parameters will have a bigger impact than 853 vs not 853, although obviously the fact i is 853 will dictate some of the options for the above.

The other thing to remember is that different =/= better necessarily, it depends on what you want out of the frame, its entirely possible one may feel a bit stiffer/flexier than the other depending on above parameters, but what you might prefer may differ to me/others.

also, this:

gets repeatedly trotted out, I’m sure it’s tongue in cheek a lot of the time, but lets be clear, gas pipe it is not, it’s still a decent proper butted chromoly tubeset.

* probably similar
** possibly very small variations
*** most likely different

I also own both and have never noticed a difference in how they ride.

My 853 is also a keeper

I had an 853 rock lobster and then a 2012 DN6 inbred, and I def noticed the difference. But that’s mainly down to tubing sizes, joint types (as mentioned above) and weight. The newest inbreds will likely have fatter top tube (this was changed on V2 frames) and is overall fairly stiff and a bit tank-like sometimes. However, it’s still pretty good value and will do the job you want it to.