Whats out there? I like the new Ramin,anyone know if if will be available as a frameset?

There’s loads out there! I’m riding a Cotic Solaris in B+ flavour. But the last few months seem to have brought us olenty of options. Am very happy with mine. Was an experiment… And have been very impressed with the grip and capability.

Am also loving the look of the new Liteville and the Last Fastforward….

Trek stache
Sonder transmitter
Ragley BigWig
SC Hightower
Mondraker crafty+

Or get in touch with Brant at Pact and get something custom in Ti.

New Orange Segment is. I’d imagine their other 29ers will follow.

New Orange Segment is.

is it?

Yes. 148mm rear to accommodate 650b+.

Boost rear end doesn’t mean it’ll fit 3″ tyres, generous tyre clearance is what orange say so might fit some plus combinations but probably not all.

Or get in touch with Brant at Pact and get something custom in Ti.

Or there’s the Sonder Broken Road

You can include the Surly 1×1 in that. It will take up to 29er wheels.

Pole Evolink 130 is 650b+/29.

Codiene 29 will go.

Genesis Tarn is available as frame only. Think with rigid forks.

This thread shows up the one major failing of B+ – there’s no agreed definition of where Plus width starts.

Boost rear end doesn’t mean it’ll fit 3″ tyres, generous tyre clearance is what orange say so might fit some plus combinations but probably not all.

So exactly the same as most normal frames then? They put a boost rear end on it to accommodate 650b+ so I’d assume it will be fine for most 650b+ applications.

I have normal bikes that can’t fit bigger than 2.1 and have had other modern frames that were on the limit at 2.2.

Boost is appearing on non-Plus frames too as it’s also about wheel stiffness.

They put a boost rear end on it to accommodate 650b+

Err… We added 6mm to the width of the pivot along with 148mm Boost rear hub spacing to provide even more lateral stiffness than the 1st generation model.

Boost isn’t a good indicator tbh, there’s 29ers with standard rears that’ll do 3.0 and boost rears that won’t comfortably do 2.8.

Does it have to be frame only? Orbea Loki is looking pretty nifty.

Still think WTB (since they do rims and tyres) should make a printable template of, say, a scraper with all their plus tyres on it. Print it on a3, stick it to a bit of cardboard, fire it into your bike, done. Wouldn’t be the be-all since I’m assuming WTB’s plus size tyres are as randomly sized as all their other tyres but it’d be a huge, er, Plus. Actually, forget about printable- get some made up in plastic and send them out to all their LBSs. It’d be bound to make sales from the curious.

Orange are claiming stiffness but call me skeptical, the swingarm design is inherently flexy and their OE wheels are usually pretty low quality… if they really wanted to make things stiffer they could have done it years ago without changing a part, but it didn’t make for good advertising copy. And I reckon the other bits will probably still be just as bendy.

Orbea loki is a cracking bike, I was shocked how reasonable the lower spec bike was

In true STW fashion I’ll recommend what I’ve got. 😆
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The Loki does look good though. I had one on order for quite a while but the delivery date kept getting pushed back so I canceled.

https://opencycle.com/oneplus