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  • 5 series beemers
  • andyl
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    Need a car ASAP (been renting one to get to work)

    Needs to be big enough to put the bike inside along with the dog and generally too much other crap so decided on a 5 series.

    Options seem to be the older style (pre-2010) 530d touring m sport for <£8k or the newer style 2011 onwards are now coming down to £10-12k for 520d tourers.

    Any experiences comparing both? Will the 520d be a dog?

    paul123
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    I had one of the newer 520d estate’s and didn’t get on with it. I know others will say they are great and a proper drivers car but imho that doesn’t mean anything on a car like this.

    Had mine from new and went through 4 exhausts in 3 years and know of others who suffered the same. Found the drive to be average too. they are however a good size with loads of room inside.

    br
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    Either way it’s a +6 y/o car for upwards of £10-20k.

    If all you need is a decent sized 2.0d estate car you can buy them a whole load newer for the same money – and £10k to £20k is a wide ‘band’.

    FWIW my pal recently got a brand new run-off 520d to replace his older (08 I think) tourer. Speaking with him I hadn’t realised the spend he’d had on the older one, serious amounts of money (and I’ve had big/expensive cars so are aware they aren’t cheap).

    iainc
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    my last car was a 520d Tourer, which I had from new, for 4 years. It was a company car, returned a month back. I put just under 80k miles on it and loved it. It never felt sluggish, and was very reliable. 2 months before end of it’s lease, and out of warranty, it had an expensive suspension fault (air compressor or something failed). That was the only thing that ever went wrong with it.

    Great for kids, bikes, stuff, and a great driving position.

    EDIT – it needed a new battery last service as well

    Tallpaul
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    Only the usual caveats for ageing diesel barges – DMF, DPF, suspension/bushes etc.

    The problem with this age of BMW’s is that they can still look like they’re brand new but be hiding a myriad of problems beneath the surface. Check it over thoroughly, look for a full BMW/specialist service history and a thick wad of receipts. It should be possible to find one that has been meticulously maintained but there will be lots that have had the bare minimum and are about to drop some expensive bills!

    sturmeyarcher
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    There’s nothing wrong with the 520d but the 530d is a much nicer engine in that size car (and not much more thirsty). There’s a lot more pulling power and 6 cylinders (vs 4) make for a much smoother experience on long journeys. I’ve had a 2003 (E39) 525d (bombproof, not sure why I sold it) and now a 2016 (F11) 535d (magnificent). A mate had a 58 plate 530d and it was faultless. I driven a new 520d, nice enough but not great. If you can get variable dampers on the newer model, it’s worth it for the improved handling and comfort.

    V8_shin_print
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    ’09 520D Touring here, I have found it to be a good balance between adequate poke and economy for long trips. Handling and grip is impressive, but then it’s the same chassis that has to keep monsters like the 535D under control so I guess necessary! You do pay a bit more for this in service costs but to me it’s worth it.
    I had a few electrical gremlins which were eventually traced to the wiring through the boot hinges – check everything on the boot works, especially the glass release button.
    They’re not the biggest of the big estates but you can get get a bike or two (with wheels off) in the boot without folding down seats.

    Hob-Nob
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    Options seem to be the older style (pre-2010) 530d touring m sport for <£8k or the newer style 2011 onwards are now coming down to £10-12k for 520d tourers.

    Any experiences comparing both? Will the 520d be a dog?

    If you sit in a well spec’d F11 5 series, when you sit in an older E60 5 series its like stepping back in time.

    I would have the newer car in a heartbeat. Everything about it is much better. The interior is worlds better, better ZF 8 speed gearbox, quieter, more comfortable, far superior iDrive, connectivity, etc.

    The only thing going for the older car is the bigger engine, which does have some reliability issues. That said I would check the 2.0TD engine as it is the supposed N47 variant with the timing chain issues.

    Driven E60’s owned an F11 & have a E91 Touring currently.

    cp
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    Colleague has an 61 plate 520d estate. I wouldn’t touch one with a barge pole. Everything inside creaks – seats, doors, dashboard. Go over bumps – creaks, go round roundabouts and the whole interior creaks.

    and its been really expensive to keep going, 60k miles on his car:-

    Tyres are run-flat and whilst cheaper than they were when first release, they are still very expensive compared to normal. Seem to wear quickly.
    Rear suspension air bags repeatedly leak and need replacing
    front suspension parts failed replaced at a cost of over £2.5k
    Turbo on its way out, needs replacing soon before it lunches engine
    Boot load cover prone to failure
    Boot release failure
    quite a lot of internal trim broken – air vents, cubby hole covers etc..

    There was some amusing banter when he got the car at the same time as another colleague got a Jag XF… that the Jag would be in the dealer all the time getting repaired. It’s very much been vice-versa and the Jag has been faultless!

    wwaswas
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    I’ve got an E61 530D.

    I had the swirl flaps replaced but otherwise it’s had routine servicing bar the iDrive ‘puter going phut – I had to have it resoldered which was a couple of hundred quid.

    Tailgate electrics are a bit dodgy but I’ve ordered a loom repair kit which will sort it.

    Positives – Gosh it’s quick. lots of passenger space. solid. gadgets.

    Negatives – boot smaller than the scenic it replaced. With the dog cage in there there’s not a huge amount of space for other stuf.

    I’d buy another one. Not tried a 2litre but the 3litre is a lovely engine.

    bikebouy
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    I’ve owned 2 530dmsport tourings in the past. I used both heavily and did a load of miles (240k on one and 170k on he other) towed sports boats with both, windsurf gear in both, drove all over Europe in both.
    The only issues I had in one was the rear tailgate locked and it turned out to be a sensor, other than that both serviced by BMW and tyres changed a few times, Obvz.
    Plenty of space, smooth car to drive, navy easy to use, seats very comfortable.

    The new shape is a bit bigger, not too sure if I’d go for one again but that’s only because I don’t need the space or towing capacity anymore.

    mashiehood
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    I have a 525d (6 cylinder) – since 2012 when little man was due to arrive, its been great. Now looking at the Tesla Model X!

    ScottChegg
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    The 5 has come along in the last few years, the newer 190bhp twin power motor is a cut above the older 520d.

    The newer 530d engine is a class above the older one.

    So get an E class Merc, they have a bigger boot. 😀

    mst
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    I’ve got a 2010 F11 530d SE. Tyre wear is bad and I don’t even rag it.

    One of the suspension airbags went at about 50K. BMW recommend to replace both at the same time. £600.

    3 litre engine is alot nicer than the 2 litre, but it does drink the fuel. Mostly rural driving gets me ~37mpg.

    Mine goes to a local indie for servicing.

    Edit:
    Used to have a 1993 525ix. Lovely engine. Thought about a petrol ?

    sbob
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    paul123 – Member

    Had mine from new and went through 4 exhausts in 3 years

    Go on…

    Sui
    Free Member

    I’ve had both, the newer one is miles apart in terms of cabin being nice.

    As for serious faults, yes the rear air springs have a history, but don’t go to BMW and have them changed go indie and you’ll pay 1/3 price, or do it yourself – it truely is p155 easy.

    Mine is a 12 plate, 70K miles and still feels new (ish). It gets serviced when it’s needed, it gets driven hard at times, but generally sits on the motorway 80% of the time. I had an issue with water entering the cabin, but figured this one as being blocked drainage holes in the engine bay (it channeled water to the back oddly).

    Very nice cars, alternative really is E Class – they have a massive boot.

    andyl
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    yeah E-class was what I was looking at but I do like “spirited” driving so figured a 5 series would be better for that.

    I know boot space wise the passat, octavia and superb are excellent but I just don’t want one of those. The A4, A6 and 3 series boots are pitiful.

    I was popping to a merc dealer earlier to see if they had any of the 2009 onwards style E-class and popped into the peugeot dealer as a 508 GT estate on caught my eye. They had a 308 GTI hatch and a 308 GT 2.0 HDI 180hp 6 speed auto estate with 11k on the clock. I actually really liked it but..

    1. I don’t really want to drop £16k on a peugeot, no matter how nearly new it is.
    2. I am replacing a metallic grey 306 estate with the 2.0 HDI engine and this was a 308 estate in metallic grey with a 2.0 HDI engine…all be it with double the hp for the same weight car (308’s are seriously light) and a lot nicer inside!

    andyl
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    The airbag thing is common with discoveries too. Looks like around £350-400 for pair and DIY is no problem. I would probably take on the servicing myself anyway. Don’t trust garages but there is an ex bmw motorsport guy my dad uses on his 320d and Z4 so could always go over to him for big service time.

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