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29er AM Titanium Hardtailness
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Posted 4 months ago #
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Really nice bike there! I'd love one.
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Hi Chris, I've dropped you an email about the Double9. Cheers!
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Looks like that bike is going to be busy for a while so I'll wait and have first go on the carbon one once it arrives please
Posted 4 months ago # -
I'd be interested in trying one against my existing HT 29er if your still wanting a test monkey?
Posted 4 months ago # -
Chris - would love to give this a ride in the Peak District
I will mail you!
Posted 4 months ago # -
Hey Chris, would love a shot of this on the Munroes behind me, will drop you a line.
Posted 4 months ago # -
The CS's are too long
Posted 4 months ago # -
Sanny - Chonzie in summer evening is ace, especially when hunting down 'missing' DofE groups
Posted 4 months ago # -
bonesetter - Member
The CS's are too long
I bet you couldn't tell the difference in a blind test.
Posted 4 months ago # -
^ Ha ha
I can tell the difference on the 16.3" Wolfhound
And the 16.9" Stickle...
To the 17.3" Niner's
Posted 4 months ago # -
Course you can.
Do you notice it while pushing down Welsh descents or just when you're bimbling round our local tame trails?
Posted 4 months ago # -
I don't go down Wales - takes too long...
Round the Col-de-Clent it's very noticeable
Bumped into a chap over Clent testing a carbon 29er XTR on test from Collins... he threw a leg over the 'hound (I exchanged leg throws on his)... put him straight off the Giant. Very nimble was his comment
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I don't go down Wales - takes too long
Not the way you drive it doesn't.
Though i could have sworn you came for a ride/walk/mince round the elan valley once.
Posted 4 months ago # -
Hell thats a sexy piece of kit .. if its not ruined by all these beforehand and it has some free time i would be happy to take it to Les Gets/Morzine Chatel for a week in july full alpine write up and im sure it would turn a few heads out there and create a bit of interest !!!!
Posted 4 months ago # -
Please Stu, forum banter aside, give us a shout you're going next and it'll gee me into going, as i would love to
Posted 4 months ago # -
Will do mate.
Posted 4 months ago # -
Matt
Slightly ot. The route off Chonzie via Carn Chois looks good. Is it? Also, have you ridden the the trails in the forest north of Comrie going into Glen Lednock? The Deils cauldron looks like it could be fun.
Cheers
Sanny (posting on Gingers log in)
Posted 4 months ago # -
Is the design set in stone at this point?
The CS length is a deal breaker for me. 20mm shorter would be so much better...?
Posted 4 months ago # -
In my opinion they have ruined what is essentially a nice looking 29er with a horrible swoopy down tube. Really hate curvy down tubes, especially on hardtails...but then I am just a fussy arty type!
Why are they used on hardtails? I can see on some full sus designs for shock placement and to allow you to fit a bottle cage in but why on a hardtail?
To me it just seems to be creating a longer tube and an uglier bike.Posted 4 months ago # -
To me it just seems to be creating a longer tube
maybe they're trying to create a longer top-tube....Posted 4 months ago # -
To me it just seems to be creating a longer tube
maybe they're trying to create a longer top-tube....
eh? Why would a swoopy down tube create a longer top-tube? I meant that the tube is longer than it needs to be as it's not taking a direct line between two points.
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sorry mis-read.
Anyhow, I'm guessing that if it were straight, you'd have a weird joint between down-tube, seat-tube abd BB shell. this way it comes off the front of the BB shell.
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I maybe missing something here, but a weird join? A join like any other normal bike frame? Sorry I think I am missing something.
Could see it could make cutting tube faces easier as you would only need cut it to meet the BB tube, but suuuuuuuuuuuccccchhhhhhhh an ugly way to make a down tube/frame.
I don't mean to poo poo the bike; other wise I think it looks pretty nice and do realise that I might just be on my own with this one.
Posted 4 months ago # -
sometimes the swoopiness is to give clearance for a fork crown at the top.
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I don't mind the swoopiness at the top so much, it's down by the BB, to me it just doesn't make sense to make a tube which should be straight curved, surely it's not as strong? But more than willing to be corrected on that one.
I can see the reason for fork crown clearance although haven't found that a problem for years, since dials have become neater. And can see the reason for a curved top tube clearance. But why at the BB?
It make it the bikes look like a cheapo bike that are trying to look like a full sus.Posted 4 months ago # -
I'll ask Chris...
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The DT/HT/ST junction looks a heck of alot stronger with that design
Personally, I like the swoop
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dt bends: you may find it is about construction ease...and clearance. if you have a muckle downtube, where it intersects the bb shell and seat tube (st bent as it is, coming in here nearer vertical) would potentially be a complex compound miter with a dt that will wrap a fair way around the bb shell and seat tube. if its bent to approach the bb shell at nearer horizontal, you get less chance of a difficult join. at the head tube end, you're probably looking at fork knob clearance. even with a gusset and fair bit of head tube extension, due to the relatively steep angle a dt makes on a hard tail 29er/long travel fork, you will find the fork crown gets mighty close to the dt sometimes. and again, it may help the miter...
just a thought.
im all for 29er ti am hardtails :-)~
Posted 3 months ago # -
First reviews from the Kingdom folks themselves up online...
Trails - http://www.kingdombike.com/TheKingdom/?p=1458
Mountains - http://www.kingdombike.com/TheKingdom/?p=1466
Interesting.
Posted 3 months ago # -
Something wrong with the snake like downtube ... hmmm ...
Posted 3 months ago # -
@drjon .You're only for Am29ers because you have the nicest one.....ever (jealousy mode off).
Posted 3 months ago # -
Interesting...
I'm 5'10".So what’s our conclusions on The Brigante and long travel 29ers?
You could say Jim’s a better rider than me, which he undoubtedly is and therefore could control the bike. But I think the answer to our different experiences on The Brigante lies more in the size of the rider and how comfortable that rider feels on a long travel 29er.
For example I’m 5’10” and I’ve been riding XC 29ers for almost a year now and I’ve never felt like the bike is too big. But when you add 140mm of travel and then take that bike on terrain that demands quick handling, the bike simply becomes too much to control for a shorter rider. If however, you’re a bigger rider (over 6′) then it’s not a problem you get a win win, all the benefits of a 29er and it handles like a normal bike.
Taken from the Mountains link above.
Posted 3 months ago # -
Kingdom
This would retail for a much nicer price of £899. But at the moment we're taking a little time out to think over how sensible a carbon 29er 140mm long travel hardtail actually is...
Makes a lot of sense. You can get around a lot of the problems associated with cramming big wheels into a compact package. I've got absolutely nothing against getting cheap composite parts made out in the East as the quality is very good and it does let more people benefit from the technology but it would be interesting to see if some of the new cutting edge methods could be used here to reduce UK build costs.
Few people on here who may be able to point you in the right directions including myself.
Posted 3 months ago # -
I think it looks awful, can't anyone design a bike without those ugly bent tubes anymore?
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