27.5 plus making the trails feel as there are alive 🙂

Yes, yes, they are.

(anything to avoid doing the same thread again)

Well done druidh. Seems you got sheepshifter’s goat. 😀

But yes, fatter tyres rubbish in mud. That’s why pukka mud tyres are all skinny waifs.

IME < 2.0 tyres are nearly always better in mud. You want a tyre to cut through it and find some purchase.

If you’re the fat-or-die-trying type then a weight-weenie fatbike at warp-speed might just float over a good section of slurry before you bail 😀

I’m with Malvern rider on this

I was only horsing around, but now I feel like an ass.

Even in summer it can be horizontal rain and hub-deep mud.

Better than a full fat bike though.

I’ve not found the 3″ tyres on my Krampus any worse in recent muddy conditions than the tyres on my other 2 mountain bikes. I’m not running proper mud tyres on those though – 2.3 WTB Bronsons on one, and On-One Smorg/Chunky on the other.

The big tyres do seem to cope better with wet/slippy roots though, and there’s a lot of them around here.

Maxxis Chronicle on the front and a Vee Rubber Trax Fatty on the rear, normally at about 12 psi apiece.

@sheepshifter, i definitely don’t think its days are numbered. They are a lot of fun when ridden in dry/damp conditions by riders that aren’t agressive enough to find floppy sidewalls a problem. They may not be great for a hardcore UK enduroist, but pretty sweet for a lot of other riders.

And you come to a forum to find out about them?

Why? Because I can run B+ in my 29er frame for non-mud, rocks etc where it’s a hoot. When it’s muddy I put the skinny 29’s back on. Oh, and it annoys some people who think we all have to ride and rate the same bikes, even though we ride different trails for different reasons.

It all depends upon the rider and the riders’ tastes is exactly right. I’ve had as many people try to talk me out of B+ as have told me it’s a great idea.

I’ve concluded that as usual I’ll need to make my own mind up and ride one sometime, when I’m ready to buy a new bike if I really like it. There’s really nothing wrong with my existing bikes, but I see the potential for a big cutting down as I currently have a FS 650B, HT 650B, HT 29er and HT 4″ Fatbike. Sidewalls are what really worries me at the moment. Once the industry loses the obsession with trying to make B+ tyres as light as possible and starts using real carcasses then we may see some progression.

STW does seem to have some fairly narrow groupthink at times.

Et viola!

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You’re not going to get far around here with that sort of sensible clear thinking!

When I first got my plus bike I did notice some of the occasional drift on slimey mud, but experience of riding the plus tyres and swapping out the stock Purgatory/Ground control combo for a pair of Nobby Nics has really changed my thinking. I also have a set of 29er wheels with Minion/HR2 that I sometimes use on the same bike and would have to say that there is more grip in the mud with the plus tyres.

Clink, that’s a whole new STW thread meme,

what mud for 27.5 B+

I want to use my B+ tyres this weekend, where is the correct mud for Hans Damf front and rear fitment ….

And I was considering a fatbike for winter use, I can always put normal wheels on it I suppose with skinny tyres 😀