Will the average non-Orange fan spot the difference?

It’s not an exaggeration to say that in my eyes they’ve been selling the same bike for 150 years, just tweaking the details for the latest standards / trends.

Not only Orange…

http://www.sunsetmtb.co.uk/shop/index.php?product_id=5019&category_id=226

6.5K for a HT?

As a long time former Orange fan, I wonder if the latest price hikes will be utilise to fund their ever increasing warranty claim department? Or perhaps adding support to their stretched customer services team? Maybe even find a new hammer to smack frames straight…sorry I would never buy another and that’s only partly to do with the price

How much did your 2012 Five cost new? There are over 30 FS bikes under £2000 on the linked to site.

The whole “it’s so much more expensive than it used to be” comment along with a link to a top spec carbon bike is just a bit lazy.
In real terms I suspect that bike prices haven’t risen much since 2012, and you get better bikes.

Just wait a bit and buy this time next year. They had some great deals on say the 2017 p7 the other day.

It’s a bit like buying a Kona at rrp. You know you can get it so much cheaper in 6 months.

I’ll happily have a try…

Moar aeroz?

#Enduro approved colours?

6mm longerer travel?

Guy Martin Endorsed?

Meh, same nonsense being spouted again. I am sure they will actually just cost very similar to comparable bikes, as they always do. They don’t even seem that much more than last year but I have not checked.

fanboi chest?

P7 starting to look a bit fussy with the seat tube brace now added to the downtube kink, but I guess it adds some much needed standover. 29 version is interesting.

‘Mega’…

Brexit pricing. We knew it was going to happen

‘Back to the fuschia’ pink….

I bought my 5 Pro 6 years ago (from Sunset as it happens) and with a few upgrades it was £3560. The comparable model now with similar upgrades is £1000 more but has a better drivetrain and fork so it’s not a huge difference once you factor in inflation. Admittedly my bike was on the expensive side compared to the other manufacturers at the time but factoring in the upgrades I made would have been done to whatever I bought it worked out not much more.

Judging by the number of them they seem to sell the price doesn’t seem to be too much of a problem. Saying that when it comes to replace it I won’t be buying an Orange, too many other options that are well specced without upgrades to choose from now.

Has the filing cabinet thing ever actually been funny?

Strike me as similar to the “Oh, you work in IT, so you just tell people to turn it off and on again don’t you? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!”
Or any other tired “joke” that people trot out at every opportunity.

Just FYI – as someone who is pretty ambivalent about Orange bikes (think they’re overpriced but never ridden one for more than a few yards, so they may be worth it?) – if it ever WAS even slightly amusing, that was a long, long, loooong time ago.

HTH

No idea, but the reviews on this very site seem to be positive.

And they sell enough of them that it can’t just be the “made in Halifax” appeal, surely?

I’d be interested in trying one out for a while to see for myself, but that’s not likely to happen until Orange see the light and realise that a long term test by a complete punter is where they should be investing their kit and money!!

don’t worry about the segment it’s being replaced by a model called the stage4 in november

Cannondale Prophet 2 (2010) – £1499

Pikes, Fox Float, 10/10 in seemingly every review, and seemingly permanently on sale at £999 for about 3 years (even the 2012 model).

Not much these days really get’s into even the same ballpark even after inflation. The cheapest Bird Aeris is ~20% more.

Having said that, Orange were always £1400-£1500 frames back then, so they’re actually cheaper!

I’m sure they are great bikes.

But I’m genuinely keen to know why they are better than say a bird, costing a grand less.

For balance I’ve ridden an alpine and it was awesome. So I’m not disputing the fact that they are great bikes. And tbf the frame only option is not nearly as bad value.

You seem to be paying almost retail prices for the parts however. Buy frame only and shop around and you will end up with a far better bike. Perhaps that’s not the market however.

When I was 15 and working as a Saturday boy in a bike shop, The MBUK / Animal/ Orange team would sometimes come in and I would drool over their Orange bikes. Now not so much. Not sure what happened really, but yeah I think basically making the same bike for the last 20 years has something to do with it

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I own a 10 year old Orange. Let me tell you, it’s nothing like the same as the new ones.

Tpbiker wrote

The bikes are assembled in the UK but the frames are far east built AFAIK. Not really comparable.